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[Re: rex123]
 #7830977 03/27/23 03:26 PM
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Here's  a better informed view  than  mine. But  I  happen  to  agree with him
 
 
 Posted: March 27, 2023
 Calm Markets and Cognitive Dissonance
 
 Articles From: Interactive Brokers
 Website: Interactive Brokers
 
 By: Steve Sosnick
 
 Chief Strategist
 
 
 
 As I write this, mid-morning on Monday, we are seeing some relative calm return to global markets.  European equities traded higher, shrugging off Friday’s concerns about Deutsche Bank (DB) credit default swaps (CDS).  US markets, having largely put those concerns behind them by Friday afternoon, are more muted, but broadly positive.  Importantly, we see 2-year yields rising by 18 basis points, indicating some easing of systemic concerns.
 
 Relative calm is good for skittish markets.  We can be hopeful that the worst of the recent banking crisis is behind us, but that requires a bit of time and faith.  No one rings a bell and declares “Banking crisis over!”  It is normal to feel incrementally safer, and adjust our investments accordingly.  Those who were active during 2008’s global financial crisis (GFC) remember that events can unfold in unpredictable spurts, making them more wary of piling back into risk assets at the slightest sign of safety, but in any event, we all crave clarity and stability.
 
 Although markets seem to be stabilizing, we still see a substantial amount of concern being priced into short-term fixed income markets.  Fed Funds futures are currently implying a 50/50 chance for a 25 basis point rate hike at the May FOMC meeting.  That means we are either at peak rates now, or will seem them by May.  From that point on, we start to see rate cuts being priced in.  Rates in July are projected to be lower than today, and at 4.17% by December.  That implies we will see a net of 2-3 cuts by the end of the year.
 
 Yet there is little historical precedent for the FOMC to cut rates immediately after finishing a hiking cycle.  It is far more typical for rates to plateau for about 6 months to a year before cuts begin.
 
 
 Looking at that history, it is quite clear that the most recent FOMC dot plot, which shows a median estimate for year-end rates at 5.1%, reflects that knowledge.  We need to go back to 1995 to see a time when the Fed quickly reversed a hike, and even then it was followed by long plateaus (at levels above today’s, mind you).  If I recall correctly, a Mexican debt crisis precipitated that quick change.  A similar sort of crisis could precipitate a similar about face, as could an abrupt
 
 Do you reasonably expect the FOMC to say, “Sure, we’ve whipped inflation, so let’s start cutting rates.”?  Of course not.  Thus, it would require some sort of major event to spur the Fed to reverse course thoroughly and abruptly.  Furthermore, that event would have to either be deflationary on its own, or sufficiently concerning that the “stable prices” portion of the Fed’s dual mandate takes a back seat to “full employment.”  Please let me know if you have any benign ways that this can occur, but I can only come up with things like recession or some sort of financial crisis.
 
 How then do we wrap our minds around the continued sanguine nature of the stock market with the nervousness expressed by fixed income markets?  It’s cognitive dissonance and quite difficult to reconcile.  One thing we see is greater concentration in stocks that are thought to be especially safe.  The problem is that those are becoming crowded trades.  As of today, Apple (AAPL) and Microsoft (MSFT), two well-managed companies with very stable earnings streams (plus a whiff of AI enthusiasm), combine to make up 25% of the NASDAQ 100 Index (NDX) and about 13% of the S&P 500 Index (SPX).  That’s just two stocks!  Narrowing leadership rarely leads to good outcomes for equities in general.
 
 Can we work our way of this conundrum?  Sure.  If we get disinflation, no recession, calmer fixed income, and broadening stock market participation, then that could lead to us into a wonderful outcome.  Do you see that as your base case?  If so, that’s quite a parlay.  If not, then please reassess the risks you carry in your portfolio and see if they truly line up with the risks that large segments of the markets imply.
 
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|  Re: Stocks
[Re: rex123]
 #7830981 03/27/23 03:29 PM
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Averaging down like a mofo on my defensive portfolio and loving every minute of the discounts provided. 
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 #7831019 03/27/23 04:24 PM
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KO was one of the first companies I invested in,,,,
 
 Pumping gas as a kid we would have too refill the coke cooler 10 times for every Pepsi
 
 That was my reasoning back then. it’s been a good company. great investment.  Great dividends
 
 Myself, I’ll walk across the street too buy a coke for more money. Also seems more world wide
 
 Added a lot over the years. Just added more
 
 
 I was just giving an example, not looking too argue
 
 
I dont see where anyone was looking to argue, better re-read it again if you think it was.  I enjoy the various insights on investing.  Like anything, each of us gets to pick and choose the information we think is helpful and disregard the rest   |  |  |  
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 #7831022 03/27/23 04:35 PM
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KO was one of the first companies I invested in,,,,
 
 Pumping gas as a kid we would have too refill the coke cooler 10 times for every Pepsi
 
 That was my reasoning back then. it’s been a good company. great investment.  Great dividends
 
 Myself, I’ll walk across the street too buy a coke for more money. Also seems more world wide
 
 Added a lot over the years. Just added more
 
 
 I was just giving an example, not looking too argue
 
 
I dont see where anyone was looking to argue, better re-read it again if you think it was.  I enjoy the various insights on investing.  Like anything, each of us gets to pick and choose the information we think is helpful and disregard the rest  Seems like it's pretty regional. Coke is king in some places, Pepsi in others. Around most of the Midwest, Mountain dew outsells everything else by far, according to people I know in the industry and my own observations of which shelves run out first. So would it be a bad idea to invest in PepsiCo, which owns Mountain Dew among other things? Who knows. That's the danger of going with your gut I suppose. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Stocks
[Re: rex123]
 #7831213 03/27/23 08:20 PM
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I'm curious if you guys always/sometimes/never re-invest dividends? 
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 #7831226 03/27/23 08:47 PM
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I'm curious if you guys always/sometimes/never re-invest dividends?I cant speak for the rest, but i always reinvest and buy more shares.  Might be a different story upon retirement and withdrawal  stage of my life.... |  |  |  
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|  Re: Stocks
[Re: rex123]
 #7836538 04/02/23 04:18 PM
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Million barrel a day cut.  Seems they might be irate the US hasn't resumed refilling the SPR. 
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