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One less shoplifter #7831680
03/28/23 11:03 AM
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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831719
03/28/23 11:52 AM
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Eau Claire Wi
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Nope


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831731
03/28/23 12:08 PM
03/28/23 12:08 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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“Worse mistake of his life”, not if I’m a juror.


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831733
03/28/23 12:12 PM
03/28/23 12:12 PM
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I've got a bunch of chickens running around in the back yard. Left to their own, they like to setup shop on the cement patio just outside the back door, and that means chicken droppings on the patio to wade thru. Not good.

The solution I came up with was to run a single hot fence electric wire about 4 inches off the ground along outside edge of the patio. Once they hit that and have what must feel like a near death experience, they will not cross it. May stack up outside it, but won't cross it. Negative reinforcement.

If you let looters and thieves run wild inside a store, unless there is some negative reinforcement, why lot come in and rob, steal, rape, loot and plunder? BUT......if that comes with chance you may very well get your head blown off, you are gonna think twice. Justice comes at you at the speed of a bullet.

In a civil society, the negative reinforcement is supposed to come from the legal justice system. We delegate all that authority and along with it responsibility to them. But since legal justice system has decided to let them run wild, street justice / vigilante justice is all that is left. The mob built a whole industry around the protection rackets.

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831739
03/28/23 12:18 PM
03/28/23 12:18 PM
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Cheyenne Wyoming
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Give him a medal.


Antelope, the original fast food!!
Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831745
03/28/23 12:24 PM
03/28/23 12:24 PM
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Need a few more like him working our retail stores to send a message for those with a little sense left in them.

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831760
03/28/23 12:43 PM
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While it may be that he was over the line in firing shoots into the shoplifter lfter he was down How could he be sure in a spur of the moment situation If this is the way law breakers where dealt with on a normal basis we would have a lot less crime Or at least a lot less people in jail THE OBIVIOUS WAY TO AVOID A BAD OUTCOME (DEATH) IS AVOID COMMITING THE CRIME .I say give the guy the benefit of the doubt It seem apparent that he feels really bad about having killed the criminal

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831770
03/28/23 12:50 PM
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Hayday is correct The idea of the criminal becoming a victim has to stop


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831827
03/28/23 01:47 PM
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The local BassPro store has a problem with groups of Latino's loading up carts and running for the door, employee's have orders to do nothing.


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Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831831
03/28/23 01:52 PM
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simple solution:

everyone just take what you want until the enforce the laws equally. this would stop in 24 hours.


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831838
03/28/23 01:56 PM
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This is why crime is out of Control. Demonrats WANT it just so long as the Criminals vote Demonrat!!! Just look at the NY City Prosecutor will not prosecute Violent Criminals but will spend MILLIONS on Trump!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831871
03/28/23 02:31 PM
03/28/23 02:31 PM
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My opinion is you have to apply the law fairly or your no better than the other side. He used deadly force out of compulsion of anger not out of threat of life. A risk one must take into consideration before carrying. I use to be very compulsive in my youth and it would have been a bad idea to be carrying back then. Lot of risk carrying even in life or death situations.

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7831910
03/28/23 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
“Worse mistake of his life”, not if I’m a juror.

This was his only mistake


Should have said " I feared for my life " and nothing else


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831946
03/28/23 04:07 PM
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His biggest mistake was talking to the cops without a lawyer present. He should have simply stated, "I was in fear for my life and I want a lawyer."


Eh...wot?

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831969
03/28/23 04:39 PM
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Who knows just what a criminal will do after showing force as to what he intends to do ?
Did the employee know if the criminal was armed?
Could the criminal beat him into subconsciousness , then kill him?
Fact of the mater is the criminal was committing a crime with force.
The employee had every right to shoot him.


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7831997
03/28/23 05:07 PM
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If the perp brandished nothing more than a fist, shooting him ten times was excessive.

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: Posco] #7832002
03/28/23 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Posco
If the perp brandished nothing more than a fist, shooting him ten times was excessive.




A fist can kill someone


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Re: One less shoplifter [Re: AntiGov] #7832011
03/28/23 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Posco
If the perp brandished nothing more than a fist, shooting him ten times was excessive.




A fist can kill someone

Sure can but drawing the gun and holding the guy until cops arrive would have been a more prudent choice. I know, I wasn't there but firing ten rounds into someone...I think the shooter is going to prison.

Re: One less shoplifter [Re: Posco] #7832015
03/28/23 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Posco
If the perp brandished nothing more than a fist, shooting him ten times was excessive.

True. With better aim one round should suffice.

Last edited by trapdog1; 03/28/23 05:26 PM.
Re: One less shoplifter [Re: trapdog1] #7832023
03/28/23 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Posco
If the perp brandished nothing more than a fist, shooting him ten times was excessive.

True. With better aim one round should suffice.

I have no problem at all with using lethal force if necessary.

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