So, if someone who outweighs you by a 100 pounds, with no weapon, is high on drugs, and says he wants to kill you, how do you stop him, with harsh words?

Do you know that? I knew based on the comments on this thread I'd be going against the tide. I'm fine with that.

Approximately a couple months back there was another high profile shooting where a customer pulled his gun, fired shooting the perp multiple times before finally shooting the guy in the head while he was down. Then he calmy walked out without waiting for the police. That also was excessive. You have your opinion, I have mine.

I believe the guy the customer killed was committing an armed robbery at the time was he not Posco?

He was. It seemed to me the customer executed the guy. Again, I wasn't there. I'm all for putting bullets into thugs, no issues.

I hope everyone that carries fully and completely understands the laws and has a clear understanding of when you legally can use deadly force for your own sake. It's messy enough even when your perfectly in the clear a lot of times. Someone just hitting you by itself doesn't normally justify the use of deadly force. What if's don't matter, it's about exactly what happened. It better be a last resort and you better be able to prove it. That last resort can be a very fine line sometimes though.

Remember the majority of the jury will be the ones that voted Biden President.....

Good shoot.
One less piece of crap dead.

Correct

if the guy told the police 'shooting the criminal was a mistake' he made another mistake...

The man should have kept his mouth shut except to say I want my lawyer and let the lawyer do all the talking

The sad thing is that almost every one of us would be kept off his jury by the prosecutor, dismissed for cause as they call it, remember the prosecutor get to question jurors first so he will eliminate everyone that would have a sympathy vote for him well before the defense gets to them



Maybe, the part that will surly put him in jail is the shots when he was on the ground and his opening his mouth to the police who will twist his words to put him in jail, now if he had kept his mouth shut it might have been explained away by saying he kept threatening me and I feared for my life, but his lawyer should have been doing the explanation of what happened not him

When a cop has to shoot somebody they dont ask for a statement till at least 24 hours has passed. Sounds like to me the worst mistake was talking. That store surely had cameras. They could have looked at the cameras and sent him home to gather his thoughts, get an attorney, wind down a tad. Store clerk should have educated himself a bit before deciding to be armed.

Good thing a majority can’t send you to jail.

Agree. He definitely shouldn't have talked.

This guy is probably going to prison. You can't shoot someone because they smacked you. You can't shoot someone because they are stealing from a store. You can't shoot someone because you're angry.

If you think about it, these are good things. We don't need dollar store clerks playing cowboy.

Fear for life or of serious bodily harm is a completely different situation.

Does a CC have an expectation of maintaining possession of the firearm as police are?

I seriously doubt that someone in fear for their life, who has practiced multiple shots rapid fire into a single target, is going to do different than he trained in a high stress situation. Number of shots is not relevant. What is relevant is whether the shooter had a reasonable fear his life was in danger.

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Probably will

i have shot handguns at targets with several TMan members. We all shot one shot at a time. Doing stuff like trying to hit a target at 150 yards with a self defense weapon. Just fun stuff. But mag dumps at a small target 20 yards away or less are common too. You get in a shoot a human situation putting lots of lead in the air is just prudent.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I went through a CC course about fifteen years ago and the instructor basically gave us the verbiage to recite if we ever found ourselves in a situation where we used lethal force to stop a threat. The course was mandatory at the time if you wanted the permit. We're now Constitutional Carry and the course is optional.

Here is a rare instance where I find myself agreeing with BC. I think he summed it up. I disagree with Danny. If there's video or other evidence of the shooter pumping multiple rounds into the perp while the guy is on the ground, I think he is in big trouble. The number of rounds discharged will probably weigh heavily on a DA deciding whether or not to prosecute.

I think your right. We are all potential jurors though.

I mean the argument for the police is what if the perp gets the gun that was brought into the situation. You know the no weapon thing is out the window for them because they always bring one in. Is a permitted individual responsible for his weapon and the security of it?

I CC all the time, I never leave home without my handgun. We've had enough crazy things happen here for me to realize bad guys or lunatics can be anywhere, anytime.

I am always hypervigilant and aware of my surroundings when I go into a convenience store. Too many people running around strungout on meth.

I worked with a guy about five years back. His ex and her boyfriend were murdered in one incident and his brother was murdered in an entirely unrelated crime. What are the odds of that? It happens.