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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832182
03/28/23 08:38 PM
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ever stop to think how much sheep there are left; especially the ones with the fine wool that go into the felt
New Zealand production of that wool is down 50 %
somebody will Google the Breed of that sheep and pull it up here

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832197
03/28/23 08:46 PM
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I've heard that sheep wool is used in felt. It is considered a cheap filler and the quality of those hats is not as good as those with a lot of beaver fiber.


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: Boco] #7832229
03/28/23 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I believe the next sale should be good.
Small window between last sale and last recieving date for next sale.

That's what I'm hoping. I could catch a ton of beaver between now and the last recieving date. Getting them all finished is another thing...

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832249
03/28/23 09:33 PM
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It's good you saved the better ones for FHA and sold your crappers in Klamath.

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: Slick Pan] #7832350
03/28/23 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
It's good you saved the better ones for FHA and sold your crappers in Klamath.

The other way around. But since crappy beaver are worth more.... smile


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832528
03/29/23 09:38 AM
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Scraping under ice beaver and watching a hockey game in shed last night. Great 1-2 , 3 being a celebratory beer when work finally ended. Will have a reasonable shipment for next FHA sale. Almost all Beaver/ Western Coyotes this time . Winter hanging in for another week here. Looks like enough snow to partially fill lakes and sloughs again… which we need after last summers drought


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832530
03/29/23 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I've heard that sheep wool is used in felt. It is considered a cheap filler and the quality of those hats is not as good as those with a lot of beaver fiber.

Watched a video on using sheep wool to "stretch" the beaver felt. These are the Walmart/Target hats.

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832579
03/29/23 10:59 AM
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Stetson's are rabbit and beaver, no wool

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832598
03/29/23 11:41 AM
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I have a feeling its the high end hat market pushing everything right now. We'll see.


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832726
03/29/23 02:07 PM
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I'll stick my neck out and say we appear to have a felt market and a shearing market. Anything that's not a good northern under ice shearing skin will be a hatter. The damaged, or skins not quite shearable with the most under fur will be #1 hatters. The fall skins without sufficient underwool will be #2 hatters. There is a grade there. The felt market will last for several years 2-3 to come. Now, chop my head off.

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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832913
03/29/23 06:55 PM
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Al, at what point will the felting trade demand that FHA grades out beaver according to #1, 2 and 3 felting grades? Maybe "demand" is too strong a verb but you get the gist.


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832940
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Well, I guess if there is no other market out there,it is a possibility, heck, there's some 6x coon still floating around out there! laugh

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: wy.wolfer] #7832970
03/29/23 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
I'll stick my neck out and say we appear to have a felt market and a shearing market. Anything that's not a good northern under ice shearing skin will be a hatter. The damaged, or skins not quite shearable with the most under fur will be #1 hatters. The fall skins without sufficient underwool will be #2 hatters. There is a grade there. The felt market will last for several years 2-3 to come. Now, chop my head off.


When can I buy you a beer...someone has come to their senses in this market. The card game has changed so the players have to read the rules.
ps for those that were watching GFW was indicating this last August of the hot market in their youtube clips and the ones on Sunday proved what he was paying...now...not in 6 months

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832974
03/29/23 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Al, at what point will the felting trade demand that FHA grades out beaver according to #1, 2 and 3 felting grades? Maybe "demand" is too strong a verb but you get the gist.

review the NAFA beaver video ( Patty) and the grader gives a good description of the felter grades

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7832985
03/29/23 08:12 PM
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But as of right now with Nafa long gone and FHA last standing auction house; gd dmg blanket beaver can be from Mississippi or Ontario and in the same string right? Last June I didn't see any different prices for strings of gd dmg.

But without question the northern gd dmg is likely to yield far more felt than its Mississippi counterpart.

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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7833009
03/29/23 08:35 PM
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Still need underfur for felt.

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7833130
03/29/23 10:21 PM
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Gd Dg is a heavy or semi skin with damage.(1's quality with damage)
Reg dmg is the beaver with less underfur(2's quality with dmg)
Poor dmg is early and late skins with damage (3 and 4 quality with damage)

I's and I-II's quality are shearable(has underfur),so gd dmg is shearable.
II's III's and IV's are not shearable(no or little underfur) grades.So reg dmg and pr dmg are not shearable grades.

You guys need to brush up on beaver grading in the FHA fur handling manual.
The Felt makers only care about the underfur,dont care about damage (unless its rotten and all the hair fell out).

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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7833205
03/30/23 01:03 AM
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Have you seen any strings of reg or poor dmg the last few years? I've only seen gd dmg. So I go back to the idea that all of the dmg beaver are together as far as I can tell. If I don't have that right I would be glad to know how.


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Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7833323
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I know I’m gonna throw the one ole Morty got to, chunks missing rips on a late fall Xl….dg gd. Was going to just use it for baits or something but now it’s going for the ride to Ontario.

Re: Beaver #'s for FHA May sale [Re: beaverpeeler] #7859922
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Numbers are up for the may sale



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