Re: Woody browse
[Re: AJE]
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03/31/23 07:23 AM
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I'm going to look into some Wildlife shrubs. I've never bought any I take cuttings from Red Osier Dogwood every year for browse plots, a lot of good videos on propagating it. I look for stems about 14" long with (4) nodes, I scrap off the last (2) nodes and pot them in sand, I have a nice root system developed by the time I transplant in May. I've also had success without potting and transplanting direct after cutting.
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: AJE]
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03/31/23 08:27 AM
03/31/23 08:27 AM
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Back in the UP days the DNR paid me to do wildlife cuts on State lands near deer yards anything over 4” at chest hight was cut but den trees, nesting trees along with fruits and nut trees got a pass or thinned a bit. The plan was creating maximum growth for the coming years to feed the deer yards in the winters.
The first few years the growth was so thick with popular whips it was tough to walk through even that also made for the biggest raspberries that had to grow through the ground cover with less competition over the years.
The DNR biologist Frank said the browse gets them through winter and the digestive track has to change over to digest it then in the spring then change back to digesting greens again. He said balsam was terrible feed as it provided little nutrients but cedars did provide more benefits to the deer. He also told me that during the switch to greens in the spring the deer stir go down hill during the change over period.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: Dirty D]
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04/01/23 02:47 PM
04/01/23 02:47 PM
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no need to plant anything, just break out the chain saw and thin the overstocked forest. Your point is well taken but if not done right I'm afraid that I could lead to too many briars
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: AJE]
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04/01/23 03:28 PM
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If you have popular trees cut some they will shoot up whips like crazy no planting required just sunlight.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: EdP]
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04/01/23 07:27 PM
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Dirty D
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Poplar trees? The whips that shoot up from some cut hardwoods is called "coppice wood." What I believe Law Dog was referring to was Popple, or Aspen. Cut it and they will send up sprouts all around. Not from the stump but just random shoots here, there and everywhere. They clear cut the stuff, the shoots grow 2-6 ft/yr. Makes great cover for Grouse, deer, woodcock and other stuff. Popple/Aspen doesn't like shade tho, you have to cut enough so there is lots of light.
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: AJE]
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04/01/23 07:33 PM
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Yes Poplar trees/aspens sprouts so thick you can’t get through a fresh grown area that love clear cuts.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: AJE]
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04/01/23 07:43 PM
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The DNR had me cut several acres then if I could get to the spots I’d get a firewood permit and haul some firewood out on the way home when I could.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: sweetwilliam]
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04/02/23 04:05 AM
04/02/23 04:05 AM
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That fella needs to get a few lessons in tree cutting before he gets a tree in the face. Very bad practices going on in his video. I don't know if there is a safe way to hinge cut a tree. It's not a practice I would recommend. I guess there's a time and place for it though. The Foresters I've talked to generally frown upon it.
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: Law Dog]
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04/23/23 12:21 AM
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The DNR had me cut several acres then if I could get to the spots I’d get a firewood permit and haul some firewood out on the way home when I could. I leave the tops because it helps keep the deer away from trees that are in the process of regenerating.
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Re: Woody browse
[Re: Dirty D]
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04/10/24 09:23 PM
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Poplar trees? The whips that shoot up from some cut hardwoods is called "coppice wood." What I believe Law Dog was referring to was Popple, or Aspen. Cut it and they will send up sprouts all around. Not from the stump but just random shoots here, there and everywhere. They clear cut the stuff, the shoots grow 2-6 ft/yr. Makes great cover for Grouse, deer, woodcock and other stuff. Popple/Aspen doesn't like shade tho, you have to cut enough so there is lots of light. Yeah, I suspect Law Dog is referring to the tendency of Aspen to sprout from their own root system. Aspen, or Popple as my old man calls it, is a clonal species. In some instances an Aspen forest is really only one organism with thousands of stems growing off one original root system. These shoots tend to respond more vigorously to scarification, so if you can expose bare soil wherever you want to grow browse then you should see a better response.
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