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Deer Depredation Study #7837667
04/04/23 06:28 AM
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Good morning (or evening for my fellow third shifters),
I was talking to a family member of mine with close ties to the MN DNR and found out that they were doing a depredation study by New Ulm, Minnesota. They collared 150 fawns last year and so far over 50 have been killed by coyotes. By no means do I think this means we need to kill all coyotes as many fawns would have most likely died from other causes if coyotes weren’t on the landscape. I just thought it was interesting enough to warrant a conversation about what predation like this could mean in the future for deer and other mezopredator, small game, and fowl populations in the state of coyote numbers stay this high.
August


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837671
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It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837673
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how many were kill by other stuff ?

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837675
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In this area we had more deer and a lot more coyotes 15 years ago!


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837677
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Coyote's eat and or prefer to eat what they grow up eating, don't no about there but around here that's about the only game we have left for them to eat and the deer numbers are as low as we've seen since the reinter duction. Farming practice is the main couplet for wildlife decline. No beaver,muskrat, rabbit, turkey, quail, pheasant,skunk, opossum, raccoon on decline, only thing increasing around here is farm chemicals.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: Eagleye] #7837688
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy

I would be very surprised if the DNR was even close to accurate on their study, it will say what ever they want it to say.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837712
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There have been a lot of studies done on this subject and in some areas coyotes killed as much as 80% of the fawns.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: Eagleye] #7837714
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy


you might want to check a map to see where New Ulm is.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7837723
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
how many were kill by other stuff ?

I’m not sure of that but I do know the fawns that we’re collared were collared well after the high spike in deaths you see due to exposure in the first days, weeks, and months as to get more accurate data on depredation. Yes I know this was done by a government agency which we all love to hate, but remember that most of the work on studies such as this are done by fellow hunters and trappers who want to know what is actually happening with wildlife populations.
August


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: BernieB.] #7837726
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by Eagleye
It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy


you might want to check a map to see where New Ulm is.


Haha I’d agree, I couldn’t tell if he was joking or not…
August


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837729
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I don't know about where your talking about but I bet some more coyotes in my area die soon.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837738
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Next time I'll use the "sarcasm" in quotes rather than crazy face grin

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: Eagleye] #7837745
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Coyotes gotta eat to

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837756
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I really doubt this "study" took place.


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837768
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You can pound them yotes all you want they will never end up on the endangered species list. Like said before coyotes and cockroaches will be here long after man is gone. SD goes to war with yotes to keep their numbers down and we gain little ground and probably help in keeping them healthy by doing so.

Here trapping, snaring, calling plus the State trappers den, fly planes, use M44s the year around along with calling and trapping. This has been going as long as I can remember and long before that to keep them in check hitting them hard will help them more then hurt them I’d say.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: Eagleye] #7837776
04/04/23 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy

wait aren't they al coyotes till someone does a DNA test

that's my story and I'm Stricken to it


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: bucksnbears] #7837778
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
I really doubt this "study" took place.


Looking at DNR website, farmland wildlife research, the study is ongoing so no published report yet. I get some of the cynical comments, but maybe wait until results are published before questioning the results.

Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837788
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New Ulm Minnesota is pretty far south however they have observed wolves moving as far south as Iowa. Not many but some.

I would think Raptors would be an issue as well, a 7lb fawn isn’t much of a struggle for a golden or even bald eagle. Interesting how people seem to love raptors and primary canines the rest of the critters be darned.

Northern MN I think will take the biggest hit. Wolves and other large canines have knocked the deer down pretty bad which in turn has taken the wolf population down a notch. This has given the coyotes just enough breathing room to start populating here again. Just what the deer didn’t need not to mention newborn moose calves.
Law Dog I’m surprised at your noting aerial hunting being of poor success. There are still some guys in the western states who put a serious hurt on coyotes from the air. Maybe those state guys need to take lessons or get someone like Boone… up in those birds.

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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: AugustZaczkowski] #7837797
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A few years back they did the opposite and had a cam on a coyote den in OH I believe then they counted the number of fawns the yotes carried back to the den if I remember right it was like 25 and still counting just at one den.


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Re: Deer Depredation Study [Re: nate] #7837803
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Originally Posted by nate
Originally Posted by Eagleye
It's refreshing to hear that none of the fawns were killed by Minnesota's ballooning wolf population. crazy

I would be very surprised if the DNR was even close to accurate on their study, it will say what ever they want it to say.

You have to remember that the DNR are controlled by the Tree Huggers in most states and they protect the wolves in every way.


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