with family or friends. They are right.

My dad spends 95% of his time at home. On the internet or watching t.v.. He has two sons in their 30's living with him (one does not work). When I force myself to visit him (he is my dad and I care about him). He all but ponces on me about politics and you are not a Christian if you are not Catholic. He is just dying to debate. Not how are your wife and kids or your business.

I am a very productive member of society as are my kids and my wife. I own a business with a bunch of employee's. I pay for a bunch of people's insurance. I know the exact impact the last several president's has had on my business, customers, suppliers, employee's, family, and self. I do not watch the new's and went over 20 years without t.v, (girls finally convinced no to get netflix). I am immersed in my community and country. I see the end results of our leadership each day. Live it and breathe it.

I am not sure what my dad is trying to convince me of? He has strained our relationship and I rarely will bring my kids over because he can not stop himself. I even have tried reasoning using logic. "dad your a Catholic and are supposed to be anti-abortion. If a politician has this as part of their platform it will hurt their chances to win. Vote for them". He just replies that's not true and refuses to look it up in front of me. It's crazy! I have given up on reason and just refuse to reply to his politics comments.

Not looking for advice just venting. I have an opinion and feel I have reason's to back them up but don't feel the need to rub everyone's nose in it nonstop.

Have a great night!lol

Is your Dad’s name Randall?

That happens hope you can get it worked out.

Sounds like your Dad is a Liberal Democrat.

I have family that are liberal also. Fortunately they all live about 600 miles away.

Maybe just visit and smile a lot?
No need to join in.

Blessings,
Mark

Sign him up on here we can keep him busy. LOL I know what you’re dealing with my wife’s oldest is like that he starts up then gets hurt feelings when he’s put in his place then it’s boohoo time and the snowflake comes out.

Liberals are that way. Love him but try just let it go in one ear and out the other. That is the best you can do.

Good grief!!!!!

Old saying: "It doesn't do to do much talking when you're mad enough to choke, for the word that hits the hardest is the one that's never spoke. So let the other fellow do the talking till the storm has rolled away, then he'll do a heap of thinking about the things you didn't say." :-)

If it is a family member I don’t really want to see for a long time, I jump right in with both.

I've got an older sister, she's went full Californian and of course she knows I'm red. Lives down around San Diego someplace. She told me I needed to listen to Bill Maher and Charlie Rose and I would become enlightened like she is. That's right, she said that. Of course this was a year or so before Charlie Rose had his 'trouble', and got busted for taking his clothes off for the young ladies.
She went after me on guns, saying how people shouldn't own them. She'd(s) been a big pot smoker for years, way before it was legal there. I told her every time she buys pot from a dealer she is undoubtedly buying from someone who has an illegal firearm and is a felon, and reminded her of the blood trail that is attached to that Mexican brown pot AND,,,,,,,,, I thought the top of her head was going to explode. I'm sure she had to take one of her prescription Xanax to calm down.
We don't talk much anymore.

That is pretty much what I do now. Not seeing much reflection in his eyes between visits.

I have three cousins in California .........they , along with their families are infected with libtardism ........no cure , no hope ........lost forever

Lol, that works.

I was the Alex P. Keaton in my family. A young conservative surrounded by liberals. Family get-togethers were great, it was usually four of five adults against one kid. I relished it.

My dad was a conservative just like the rest of the family and certain times he would get confrontational about anything , when I was 27 he was 68 I came over and he started on me in the kitchen told I don't want to fight he kept at it and got in my face all I said was throw the first one and I will mop the floor with you and mom got in between us it stopped . One hour later we are going fishing and not a word was ever said and till my moms dying days 12 years after him we still don't know what it was about just age or not feeling well or what it's a weird deal.

I have a cousin that married and moved to California. She started in on Ar15s on face book after one of the shootings. I don't have face book but my wife does and she showed me like can you believe her?

I don't rember the exchange it's been a few years ago. But I started with reasion logic and Backes that up with documented facts with links. None if it sunk in and she went to no one needs an AR 15 or uses them for hunting. I just asked her if she was honestly willing to take my kids configurable, light, adjustable, low recoil deer gun away from him along with a picture of him at 7 with two deer he had killed one morning with his 8.5" supressed AR on 300 blackout posing with both deer and rifle.. I told her next time she is in town swing buy and she can get hands on experience with about any gun she can think of. She can then be informed and know what she is talking about instead of just parroting inaccurate bs she hears on TV. Repeating bs talking points that are not factual just makes you look ingorant to everyone that actually knows anything about guns.

She didn't respond and that's the last I have heard from her.

I doubt he is a liberal sound like Randell

Psychology studies always include a big section on how the logical philosophy (argument) doesn't work with emotional philosophy (argument). And vice versa.
I see that play out about every day in the people I'm with.

On this side >>>>> logical discussion.
On the other >>>>> emotional discussion.

The two shall not do anything but increasingly irritate and anger the other.

Trappingthomas, perhaps dad is coming from one of these sides and you the other?
I suspect (as it is most times) this may be the case.

Dad may really be tossing out logical thinking cloaked by emotion (from who knows what)... in what seems like rational thought (to dad). His emotional thinking underneath the "logic" may be flavoring all attempts at anything rational however. Happens all the time.

Just love the old fart for who he is. Your father.

Blessings!
Mark