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Savage Rascal #7839322
04/05/23 11:25 PM
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Need some help guys.

Got this gun for my little girl for her bday [Linked Image]
. She's a tiny thing and is shooting her BB gun with open sights very good. She's knocking down cans left and right, and I think it is time for an upgrade.

I want to make this her first scope rifle that fits her and she learns shooting with a scope right off the bat. Any suggestions on how to mount a scope to this. They did not have any at Academy that would fit. Is there another manufacturer that has the mounts and such. It's got tapped holes on top that should be able to mount?


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839326
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Think I'll find some BB or 22 scope mounts and make them work.


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839358
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Hopefully it works well for her both my kids learned on one. I thought about putting a small scope on it like a Grubee wolf pup but they shot with the peep sight so well I never put a scope on it. The kids called the rascal the clicker because it would light strike and not fire. I tried many different brands of ammo and then sent the bolt back, after trying it out it still clicked so I sent the rifle back. After getting the rifle back it still clicked and also wouldn't always eject the casing so it was worse then when I first got it. Now the kids have ruger 10/22's and no more issues.


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839364
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I think this rifle comes drilled and tapped I think .Amazon has 2 styles. Like above poster said Amazon has them. Plus I think Brownells. Marty

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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839434
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I got one for my granddaughter…I bought the mounts from savage and met with my gun dealer who bought the appropriate scope which I mounted and bore sighted…little gun shoots really good….if that doesn’t work for you check with a local, trusted gunsmith…they usually have an idea and think outside the box…Good Luck and keep the young lady shooting.

Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839568
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EGW makes one it is picatinny so it has slots all all the way front to back

https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Rascal-Picatinny-Scope-Mount/dp/B01AAU4276

EGW makes good rails


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Originally Posted by ~ADC~


I have the SPARC II mine is with the high mount for the AR it seems to jump a little 5 really dim settings like night settings and then jump to 5 higher settings like day settings . I run on the lowest of the day settings most of the time it always pops back on to your last setting and the 12 hour shut off keeps the battery from going dead in the case or safe

I like it and it is light weight , that would be my concern in putting a larger optic is that if you get into full size magnified rifle scopes you start adding weight real fast.


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839607
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Nice! I like open sights and so did Annie Oakley.

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I'm probably the odd man out, but I think kids should learn to shoot with iron, or peep sights, It's not like moving up to a scope is hard....

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Originally Posted by gcs
I'm probably the odd man out, but I think kids should learn to shoot with iron, or peep sights, It's not like moving up to a scope is hard....

I actually really like peep sights , traditional irons notch and post leave a lot to be desired but a good post and peep is a good training tool.

finding good peeps in 2023 is sometimes harder than just moving to an optic

my old Marlin 22 rifle wears a Williams peep and the original post front , I like that gun but that gun just happened to be drilled and tapped for a peep, had to trim the stock a bit , and it keeps the bolt from being able to be removed with out removing the site , it has a zero stop so it finds zero again but it is tools to remove the bolt.

so such is the way of modern things scopes have gotten easier to install than finding a decent iron sight for a lot of guns.


time is also a constraint , if you have really limited time , even the Army has learned you can train faster with an optic , is it as good of an education , no but if you have a goal with a time constraint , it can help.

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Originally Posted by gcs
I'm probably the odd man out, but I think kids should learn to shoot with iron, or peep sights, It's not like moving up to a scope is hard....


Why?

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by gcs
I'm probably the odd man out, but I think kids should learn to shoot with iron, or peep sights, It's not like moving up to a scope is hard....


Why?

I think it is a little like learning to do math long hand before jumping to the calculator , it gives you more skills


it's sort of a strange , like you know how to use a handsaw well type skill

I was attending club shoots and I had been bringing guns with optics one day I showed up with irons and also shot well , a few guys where like , what you can shoot irons also ?

maybe a bit like when you hop in a manual transmission when people have only ever seen you drive and auto and it is completely natural to you because you used to do it al the time, it confuses people.

optics are a definite advantage but it is good to be able to do both

if you start with irons , optics are easy

if you start with optics. will they get frustrated and not learn irons ? maybe

if your spending quality time with a daughter or grand daughter make the time teach irons and optic

if I have 2 days to get you ready for a hunt I would short cut and go optics.

you put backup irons on a gun because they are light weight, don't need batteries and are a fast deploy backup my irons are up as fast or faster than a mag change

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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839860
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i just got one for my son and havn't opened it yet....gun dealer said it had peep sight & was pre drilled for scope mount.
i bough a chipmonk for nephews son few years back and it came with a scope.


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7839906
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What GCPete said,Using irons is a little harder, makes you focus on what your doing, I still use peeps on my 3030, no problem with accuracy and is a faster target acquisition.

Using a scope is great too, it's a better option in low light and really down range, but I always felt it was so easy it was almost like cheating, lol . That said, I put a low power scope on my son's rifle cause he just never spent the time learning to shoot irons well, , His attention span is spent on other things he's good at....so.....YMMV.

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Originally Posted by gcs
I'm probably the odd man out, but I think kids should learn to shoot with iron, or peep sights, It's not like moving up to a scope is hard....


I agree which is why my kids learned to be proficient with both styles of open sights, it is a skill they will never forget. I've seen kids who learned on a scope but when put behind open sights really struggled to shoot well. It is the same with the red dot sights which are so common these days. Us old timers who learned to shoot with open sights on a handgun have no problem but for the younger folks who learned to shoot with the red dot really struggle to hit the target if you let them try open sights. Why limit yourself?


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Thanks fellas, sure do really appreciate it!

Im gonna buy those mounts y’all mentioned and fit her up to a scope.
Like I said, she’s been shooting open sights for over a year now, busting ballon’s and cans, but only so much you can do after that. She’s killed a few frogs with them and I want to start stretching her out.
I agree, good to learn on open sights first. But to be honest only time Ive ever needed to know how to shoot peep sights was on a mini-14 or a naked AR. I liked them, but if she is good with open sights and a scope, then peeps won’t be a problem if need be later down the road.


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Re: Savage Rascal [Re: Chancey] #7840102
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She wants to go squirrel hunting with me, and around here how I was raised shotguns are the last option. Headshots only, we don’t care to eat the brains and head. That’s very difficult to do for a 7 year old and me as well with open sight .22


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Don’t know about the savage but the little Cricket .22 is seriously accurate. Bought one for my granddaughters 1st birthday. My son has been “trying it out” and he’s made some 30yd shots with iron sights and dropped what he was shooting at.

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As a former 4-H Youth Development Through the Shooting Sports rifle instructor, I would like to offer my opinion, even though it appears that the OP has already made up his mind.
I had a small bore shooting team (22 long rifle) ranging from age 9 to age 18. We used rear peep sites and aperture front sights on savage bolt action rifles. These kids were shooting at targets at 50 yards in unsupported positions. Prone, kneeling, sitting, and standing.
Most of them could outshoot me, and I shoot for a living.
If they were shooting at cans instead of targets, they would be targeting a quarter sized spot on that can and hit it every time.
As soon as you mount a scope on these savage rifles, you will change the cheek plant on the stock. This is something that an adult can accomplish, but a child has a tiny face with little room for comfortably altering their cheek plant to raise their line of sight to the higher mounted scope.
I would strongly recommend that any kid under the age of 10 would benefit greatly from shooting rear peep sights and aperture front sights until they can demonstrate that they can kill a quarter at 50 yards.
Just my .08 cents. (adjusted for inflation. It used to only be worth .02 cents two years ago...)

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