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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840624
04/07/23 11:50 AM
04/07/23 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC
Law Dog when someone says something that seems like its 100 percent impossible, yes I will question what they say.



So if a guy offers help you pick that help apart word by word that’s why people stop offering help without consulting their lawyers it’s not worth the effort often. I doubt he had any ill intentions or he would not of offered the help to begin with your a hard guy to figure out often. I had the same thought as I see the same news but hesitated saying anything for this exact reason.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: Law Dog] #7840630
04/07/23 12:01 PM
04/07/23 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by DWC
Law Dog when someone says something that seems like its 100 percent impossible, yes I will question what they say.



So if a guy offers help you pick that help apart word by word that’s why people stop offering help without consulting their lawyers it’s not worth the effort often. I doubt he had any ill intentions or he would not of offered the help to begin with your a hard guy to figure out often. I had the same thought as I see the same news but hesitated saying anything for this exact reason.


For your credibility's sake do you have any way to verify that number? Or at least create a reasonable defense/explanation for it?

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840633
04/07/23 12:13 PM
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What I took from that is he was saying that women were practically as bad as men when it came to sex offenses, becauses hes dealt with “1,000’s of each”. He indicated that we are simply lied to about the women and they are hidden. part of my point if this thread is i dont feel very comfortable with men in a daycare roll. Call me sexist i dont care. This guy trying to make it sound like the women are nearly as bad as the men is just wrong. Google is your friend
Im not hard to figure out. When i know im right about something, i wont back down.

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840634
04/07/23 12:14 PM
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Nobody can raise your kid better than you , or family you trust .


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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840646
04/07/23 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC
I do not believe youve worked with 1,000’s of female sex offenders.


LOL. Ok.

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: w side rd 151] #7840647
04/07/23 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by w side rd 151
Just this week the Maryland state attorney released a report concerning sexual abuse that has been reported in
the Baltimore Archdioceses Catholic church Going back nearly 40 years there found over 600 case of sexual abuse committed by at least 158 people associated with the church In many of those cases it was known that the situation was happening .But the misconduct was covered up by the people in charge So evil people exist every day and every where you go Our society seems to be seeking a new level of self indulgent sickness every day and in every aspect of our society.


This is far more common than abuse out of daycare. It’s weird that you never hear stuff like “don’t trust them” regarding such institutions like we’ve just been told never to trust a daycare.

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840654
04/07/23 12:35 PM
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I think the point was it was not just males that pray on kids just look at the recent reports of female teachers in the news. Male children are often the victims rather than females was suggested at the last training I attended when I was a youth worker. Not much I have not heard of in the last 35 years you sure it hear about it enough times it sure seems like 1,000 times in the end.

Most people seldom deal with this in their life others deal with it everyday.

Last edited by Law Dog; 04/07/23 12:37 PM.

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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: Law Dog] #7840714
04/07/23 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I think the point was it was not just males that pray on kids just look at the recent reports of female teachers in the news. Male children are often the victims rather than females

Most people seldom deal with this in their life others deal with it everyday.



Most of these female teachers are getting with WILLING 14-17 year old boys, hardly the same as child molestation.
Heck, I had a few in HS I would have willingly fallen victim to...

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DaveP] #7840746
04/07/23 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by Law Dog
I think the point was it was not just males that pray on kids just look at the recent reports of female teachers in the news. Male children are often the victims rather than females

Most people seldom deal with this in their life others deal with it everyday.



Most of these female teachers are getting with WILLING 14-17 year old boys, hardly the same as child molestation.
Heck, I had a few in HS I would have willingly fallen victim to...



Many are even younger, at 14 I’d would of cut and run even at that age, even the older kids are groomed one way or another don’t kid yourself we all thought it but that’s about it. So would you be proud if your children was a participant in such actions and not feel like a victim?

Last edited by Law Dog; 04/07/23 03:02 PM.

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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840769
04/07/23 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC
A background check for these places consists if a paid online search for CONVICTIONS. Thats a far cry from what theyve been investigated or even charged for. Google is your friend.



I’m afraid you may be wrong about your knowledge of the background check. My wife and I own and operate a thriving Daycare and at least here in the state of Tx we have to have a state initiated criminal background check.
It red flags even some minor things and the state tells us we can’t have that person in our Daycare.
As far as men working in a daycare my wife and I have agreed it’s not the best option mainly because of perceptions such as yours. I am there at the facility a lot and the kids love me. I promise you I am NOT a pervert or child molester.

Re: Men working in daycare [Re: Trapper5123] #7840795
04/07/23 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper5123
Sorry for your situation. There are churches around me that offer day care. Costs the same but hopefully a better environment.


My cousin was raped by an older boy at a church day care . Now she Is one of the mental cases that wants to be a man. Rape was over 25 years ago.

Don't think they are safe just becuse they are in a church.

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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840825
04/07/23 05:20 PM
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Often you can look at a person and see that they have been abused like the singer Billie Eilish when she first became known she screamed of a sex abuse victim just by her dress and demeanor but I’ve seen it before but it was still easy to spot.


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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: rvsask] #7840873
04/07/23 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Originally Posted by w side rd 151
Just this week the Maryland state attorney released a report concerning sexual abuse that has been reported in
the Baltimore Archdioceses Catholic church Going back nearly 40 years there found over 600 case of sexual abuse committed by at least 158 people associated with the church In many of those cases it was known that the situation was happening .But the misconduct was covered up by the people in charge So evil people exist every day and every where you go Our society seems to be seeking a new level of self indulgent sickness every day and in every aspect of our society.


This is far more common than abuse out of daycare. It’s weird that you never hear stuff like “don’t trust them” regarding such institutions like we’ve just been told never to trust a daycare.


I thought it went without saying that NO ONE trusts their kids around Catholic priests anymore.


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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DaveP] #7840877
04/07/23 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by Law Dog
I think the point was it was not just males that pray on kids just look at the recent reports of female teachers in the news. Male children are often the victims rather than females

Most people seldom deal with this in their life others deal with it everyday.



Most of these female teachers are getting with WILLING 14-17 year old boys, hardly the same as child molestation.
Heck, I had a few in HS I would have willingly fallen victim to...


While I agree that there is a huge difference between a woman and a 16 year old boy versus a man and an 8 year old girl... both are still wrong and gross.

Would you be fine if you found out your 14 year old daughter was sleeping with her 40 year old history teacher?


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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: otterdog] #7840928
04/07/23 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by otterdog
Originally Posted by DWC
A background check for these places consists if a paid online search for CONVICTIONS. Thats a far cry from what theyve been investigated or even charged for. Google is your friend.



I’m afraid you may be wrong about your knowledge of the background check. My wife and I own and operate a thriving Daycare and at least here in the state of Tx we have to have a state initiated criminal background check.
It red flags even some minor things and the state tells us we can’t have that person in our Daycare.
As far as men working in a daycare my wife and I have agreed it’s not the best option mainly because of perceptions such as yours. I am there at the facility a lot and the kids love me. I promise you I am NOT a pervert or child molester.


Well then the fatty who runs the place lied to me. A google search showed 4 arrests which were in online articles. A buddy in law enforcement told me there are constant domestic issues along with drug use with this person. So it either just shows convictions, thats all they take into account, or they just dont care as long as youre not a registered sex offender. One article stated this guy wrapped his arms around his fiances neck and slammed her head into a wall.

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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840962
04/07/23 07:46 PM
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Child molestation among clergy is hardly confined to Catholicism. For some reason though thats the faith you always hear about.

A man working in a daycare seems odd to me.


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Re: Men working in daycare [Re: DWC] #7840964
04/07/23 07:50 PM
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There is a reason my wife stays home and homeschools the kids. Not many are willing to make the life choices that allow them to do that other just don't want to.
I'm lucky enough to have a job that allows her to stay home and a wife that sees raising the kids as her priority.

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