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Small pond, how to trap otters #7840810
04/07/23 04:49 PM
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I used to trap Coon and muskrat 40 years ago, but we didnít have otters in the area. Now, some folks here where I stay have been waiting several years for some nice size bass, and I just figured out why there isnít any. Iíve been reading lots, and watching lots of YouTube videos, but so far havenít had any luck. I understand itís a little harder in still, open water. See photos of my pond. [Linked Image]

I found one little sign of scat, with fish bones, but wouldnít really call it a ďtoiletĒ like Iíve read about.

My neighbor has a pond, too, almost within seeing distance. He thought he saw something in his once. Iím sure it/they move thru, from what I read.

After seeing many videos of a bucket set and tube set, I made what I thought would work well. A floating set, that has 3 or 4 8Ē bass in the back with a 220 Conibear waiting in the front, and a dead fish on top to get their attention. I just order some otter lure to maybe help attract them. See photos.
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Itís been a week, and the only thing I caught so far was a turtle. The otters are around. I see little bass jumping for their lives everyday! Iím hoping he cavernís otter lure will help get them interested in the bass inside, but otherwise, Iím at a loss what to doÖ

Iíve walked around the pond several times but see no sign, or trail. Only see them chasing fish in the water but not long enough to shoot at.

Weíre in Alabama

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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7840856
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In my humble opinion your over thinking it. Although I will compliment you on your craftsmanship.

You mentioned you walked around a looked for sign. Do it again, they are coming into that pond from somewhere. Setting up a trail they are using for access is going to be much more productive than trying to convince them to go into that bright shiny float in a groomed pond.

If that fails. Stake a piece of 8" drain tile (partially submerged) along the edge with a 220/280 at each end.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7840861
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Gibb did a good article in FHA mag several years ago of a submerged pail set
you could even do a blue bucket cause it will be out of sight frown

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7840950
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Dangle a large paddle tail swimbait in the middle of the cage so that it is positioned in a natural swimming position. Wave action will make it "swim".
It would work better if you made the back end of the cage out of hardware cloth to make it more visible.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841000
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Does the pond have an overflow that is running water all the time ?If so put a couple pictures of it on here.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841021
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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841071
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Welcome to Trapperman my friend!

Great craftsmanship, that took some time and thought to make!

There is most likely a trail, that links this pond to the other pond you mentioned. Look hard, find the trail and catch your otter there. Heís gotta be entering the pond somehow. It may be hard to find, but theyíre habitual creatures, meaning the otter will use the existing trail over and over.

Of course, leave your fancy trap set and give us feedback! Good luck, youíll get him.

John

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: Ric] #7841179
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ďIf that fails. Stake a piece of 8" drain tile (partially submerged) along the edge with a 220/280 at each end.ď
We do have a few long lengths of green 10Ē water line. I can see that may be better ó something they can see all the way through. Should I cut it down to about 3 or 4 foot long?

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841223
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yes welcome , try and find its trail go from one pond to the other.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841304
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The overflow doesnít run all the time, but when it does, it runs down this ditch. I canít really tell that the otter are traveling here thoughÖ

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841374
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I don't think your set up has a very good chance to connect. Otters are too smart (usually) to go through something like that. I can tell you I observed a government agency attempting to live trap otters in a lake I was trapping at the same time. They had large holding cages submerged with trout swimming around. All the otter had to do was go over the top into the cage and an electronic device would slam the lid down. Sure looked good. But in one month they caught exactly....none. Otters wouldn't get into one.


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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841376
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I agree with others to look for how the otters are accessing your pond.


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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841381
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Find a narrow spot in that overflow ditch and put in a conibearÖnarrow it with down with a couple sticks if needed. if legal, a 220 would be best. Youíll catch coon and otter.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: beaverpeeler] #7841383
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Thanks. Iím getting the same feeling. My trap looks perfect, but the otters are too smart. Even with 4 nice 8Ē bass swimming around in there.
However! ó AHA! Iíve been too focused on the pondÖ I walked around the neighbors pond (theyíre all kin, and kinda like my grandparents) and I realized there is a tiny creek nearby. Itís raining at the moment, but they said it dwindles way down in a just a few days, but never dries up completely. The following 2 photos are taken standing at the same place:
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Öso you can see how close this little creek is. I canít see any trail, but I should be able to set my 220 in the stream with a couple guide sticks once the water drops a little.

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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841386
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The otters will follow those over flows even if water isn't running through them. Blind set those.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841387
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That should work.


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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841400
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Check your laws and check with the neighbors to see if any dogs run loose. Just an off side chance of one walking in the mud, but.....


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Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841417
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If your luck is like mine wait till after season to set and set for beaver and the otter will plug every trap full . I swear they are a beavers body guard .

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841418
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Try a Big fish head on a stick like a carp or something.a foot to a foot and a half off the bank sticking out of the water with a few traps between the bank and fish head. You want the traps in shallow enough water that they are on their feet and on the deep side of the fish head they can not stand there. It makes a funnel and you'll wack them everytime. Use a drowner rig. I bet you would have some good success. I used some sword fish heads once with the bills pused down in the mud. they were there for over a year and critters were still hitting them.

Re: Small pond, how to trap otters [Re: SouthernAtHeart] #7841428
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Probably want to check your regs. Otter season is closed in AL.


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