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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842801
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Back in the day when people had more tact and were generally much mor respectful than the toerags around today,the onlypeople who talked about politics were politicians.
People kept their political views private and never would they ever say who they vote for.
Society has gone to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) in a handbasket,morally,civilly and respectfully.

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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842809
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Allof my wife's stepfather's conversations are about politics, nothing else.Drives me nuts.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842821
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My father never tolerated any liberal relatives. No matter how closely related. Especially one , his own daughter from a previous marriage , who was a hippie in Woodstock, and hated our VN vets.

My father and I waved the welcome home banner for them and bowled over anyone who did not.

Being a WW2 decorated fighter pilot, he didn't deserve, need to tolerate or put up with them.

He never let them into his house, or stay for a visit. We did just fine without them. We kept them all far away from us.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842860
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I'm a black sheep in both sides of my family haha. Most a dems or liberal. Politics are rarely discussed but when they are I give them facts and it ends.
Just lost a good long time friend. She said she never liked Trump even way before he was potus. I asked why? And stated he was the best potus we have ever seen. Oh boy that lit the fuse said friend says I should stop talking to you for that comment. I said BYE!!!! lol
When I ever tell someone "bye" that means they are done in my life.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842868
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The prodigal son returned and his loving father was there waiting for him. The father desired to show his son great love and compassion. Never once did the father call the child foolish or belittle him for his squandering. I would encourage you to grow in your relationship with Jesus and allow your son to see the love you have for your savior. We are all sinners and your son is caught up in a sin of the fleshly nature. Talk with him and ask him why he ventured outside of Gods plan for his life. You have to have the knowledge and truth yourself first though.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: Blaine County] #7842900
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Not every discussion has to be a knock down political fight.

This country has generally lost its ability to listen, reason and compromise. Considering another point of view is not going to make you a liberal.



they've lost it long ago. I was banned from a neighbor's annual Christmas party years ago circa 2002. Bunch of educators one piped up about lecturing a family member dating a republican and had to 'set her straight". Told him tongue in cheek "ya finally got somebody in the family with a brain and you want to kick him OUT??" dead silence. never got invited back.
you see that's why they are so brilliant, they sit together congratulating each other on how smart they are and never have anybody disagree with them.

For libs considering another point of view is not an option, because they don't believe one exists.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842901
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The only associations I have with liberals are associations that benefit me, nothing social at all unless I am in a social setting which I regularly attend for my own benefit and they are also there. It is not really 'bad' to talk politics with a lib but it is rather 'pointless' and a waste of your resources.


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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842906
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I normally keep quiet until I'm asked my opinion..... Subjects change real quick once I finally pipe down. I sugarcoat nothing for my woke family members

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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: warrior] #7842912
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Originally Posted by warrior
Nope because I would disown the lot of them. But they've known that from the very beginning so they didn't turn out that way.

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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842921
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Learning who the enemy is can be disturbing , friends. , Family , neighbors , co-workers , but worth knowing in my opinion .


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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842935
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Originally Posted by 2zwudz
I am beginning to not like family gatherings. I had to leave the room most of the day yesterday. My wife and kids conversation was nothing but their work and liberal politics. My oldest son is gay and his job is in politics. As you can imagine most family conversations turn to liberal political ideologies. My way of handling this is to calmly remove myself from the conversation and leave the room but that puts me away from the family gathering. Do any of you guys experience this?


Wife's family is hard core the opposite way. I ended up instituting by default a no politics rule when I'm around. But it wasn't really a specific request on my part. I enjoy a good argument and will almost instantly take the opposite position in a convo with someone taking absolutist positions in any form. Shortly upon my entry into their scene, they found themselves with an inability to control their emotions. It was in fact, so funny to me, that I hit record on the audio on my phone. I enjoyed it so much I sent it to them later on. It happened again. Recorded again. Sent again. More often than not, they'd get so worked up that they couldn't reconcile hearing their own level of crazy so to speak when not in group form. Now they don't bring up politics anymore when I'm around. There's plenty to talk about and enjoy each others company without discussing things no one in the room can, nor is willing with their own time to, change.


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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842959
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I'm at a point in my life where I don't care if its close family or friends, if they are liberal or "woke", I remove them from my life. I have found that as my circle of family and friends gets smaller, the more I enjoy get-togethers. Liberalism, "wokeness", and all the other insanity that is the current rage, is nothing more than mental disorders brought on by brainwashing and weak minded ignominious pukes who think this is how they can be part of something, be accepted. They will drag you down and it will affected you mentally and physically.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: warrior] #7842964
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Originally Posted by warrior
Nope because I would disown the lot of them. But they've known that from the very beginning so they didn't turn out that way.

No one is allowed to disagree with you?

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: trapdog1] #7842966
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
No one is allowed to disagree with you?

That's what I was thinking. Lots of folks in here sounding just like the liberals they claim to hate


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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7842985
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Yep, lots of tough talk here.

My reality is that my oldest daughter got herself an expensive education. She set her goals and achieved them. She has a great job that pays her to travel the world. But somewhere along the line she stopped being my little girl who hunted, trapped and fished with me and adopted a liberal ideology, It probably started in college.

We've had some bad and frustrating arguments where things were said that we both regret. We stopped talking altogether for a while. Neither of us changed to other's mind.

Now we simply avoid politics. She is my daughter and I love her. I'm also very proud of her accomplishments but her mom and I agree that she will probably never be right in the head. We all get along fine now.


Eh...wot?

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: Lugnut] #7843001
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Yep, lots of tough talk here.

My reality is that my oldest daughter got herself an expensive education. She set her goals and achieved them. She has a great job that pays her to travel the world. But somewhere along the line she stopped being my little girl who hunted, trapped and fished with me and adopted a liberal ideology, It probably started in college.

We've had some bad and frustrating arguments where things were said that we both regret. We stopped talking altogether for a while. Neither of us changed to other's mind.

Now we simply avoid politics. She is my daughter and I love her. I'm also very proud of her accomplishments but her mom and I agree that she will probably never be right in the head. We all get along fine now.



Yep. Daughter has her her masters degree in education. A high school English teacher. K12+9 years of college education so she is a liberal. She'll even admit it's hard to graduate from college with good grades and not be liberal. They won't allow it,

We just don't discuss politics, that's a place we don't go.
I will say, being a high school teacher for several years she admits a lot of liberal polices just don't work.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: Trappeur Gunny] #7843037
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Originally Posted by Trappeur Gunny
I'm at a point in my life where I don't care if its close family or friends, if they are liberal or "woke", I remove them from my life. I have found that as my circle of family and friends gets smaller, the more I enjoy get-togethers. Liberalism, "wokeness", and all the other insanity that is the current rage, is nothing more than mental disorders brought on by brainwashing and weak minded ignominious pukes who think this is how they can be part of something, be accepted. They will drag you down and it will affected you mentally and physically.



Agree 100% ......time on Earth is short , and I just don't have time for stupid people ...... family included .

I thank God I don't have any strays in my immediate family ......the rest are dead to me


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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7843039
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In the Scripture you quoted there is a point you missed.
Before the son came home he came to his senses. His Father was glad to see him of course.
The son didn’t come home asking for more money. He realized the error of his ways.
Big difference than if he’d come home broke but wanting more.

Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: 2zwudz] #7843060
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I avoid family gatherings as much as possible. I've never brought up politics at family get togethers, they do. (My siblings, not my own kids and their families) . So obviously it's for my "benefit ". I make it easy, I just don't go.

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Re: Talking politics at family gatherings? [Re: trapdog1] #7843068
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Nope because I would disown the lot of them. But they've known that from the very beginning so they didn't turn out that way.

No one is allowed to disagree with you?


Triggered snowflakes.

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