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Sold some fur to gfw yesterday #7846427
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I I sold 187 rats 11 beaver and two otter yesterday. Got a 250 average on the rats. Got 25 and 30 on two otter that were put up as were the rats. Also sold another 11 beaver with a high of 32 and low of five. The beaver were not put up. I am glad I did not have high expectations and that is all I will say about that.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846463
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Originally Posted by Muskratwalt
sold another 11 beaver with a high of 32 and low of five. The beaver were not put up.


So what did your beaver average end up being for these green beaver ?

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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846579
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Was just over a $14 a piece average. Three were five dollars three were 10 f o u r at 20 and one at 32. I think I could have done better.


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this sounds like a stupid question, but most fur buyers want the hides fleshed, right?


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: chippewatrapper] #7846603
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Originally Posted by chippewatrapper
this sounds like a stupid question, but most fur buyers want the hides fleshed, right?


Groenwold probably doesn’t pay anymore for fleshed beaver as he has a machine that does fleshing in less than a minute.

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846617
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But you do have a check in your pocket that is a good thing

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Mad Scientist] #7846622
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
Groenwold probably doesn’t pay anymore for fleshed beaver as he has a machine that does fleshing in less than a minute. He pays 50% of value no matter what.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846629
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On side note I was sorry to hear that gfw's buyer George w h o I had sold a lot of fur too over the years had passed away from cancer according to gary G.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: MJM] #7846651
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
Groenwold probably doesn’t pay anymore for fleshed beaver as he has a machine that does fleshing in less than a minute. He pays 50% of value no matter what.



Convenience fee

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846653
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Originally Posted by Muskratwalt
On side note I was sorry to hear that gfw's buyer George w h o I had sold a lot of fur too over the years had passed away from cancer according to gary G.


George was a great guy

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846690
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If your gonna sell green & frozen beaver to GFW I think it's to your advantage to freeze the pelts folded in half length-way/linear from nose to tail base....the fold being the backbone ridge. Not only does this make the pelt appear slightly larger but it is the way Gary G said to freeze them.

I'm not sure how the op presented his beavers but I did see some at recent stops that were frozen balled up and the averages were several dollars lower.

Also...fold otter in half....opposite the beaver way.....you want the nose touching tail base when frozen...fold is in mid-section of pelt.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846698
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Swamp, the two otters were f l e s h e d and stretched and the Beaver were skinned folded and Frozen exactly like you described the way I always do when I sell them green. Like nimsy says it is more of a convenience thing.


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Originally Posted by Muskratwalt
Swamp, the two otters were f l e s h e d and stretched and the Beaver were skinned folded and Frozen exactly like you described the way I always do when I sell them green. Like nimsy says it is more of a convenience thing.

Ok.....makes me wonder if the beaver buying frenzy isn't already softening a bit.....but that was only 11 beavers you sold, so....

$14 seems like a low avg for the sizes you mentioned.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846713
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That's what I thought also that the beaver prices were a little on the low side. My elderly memory is showing through because it was Guy I sold to not Gary.


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Those beaver prices do not resonate well with what happened at the MTPCA sale yesterday.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846818
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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7846908
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Sold fur to George many years. Learned a lot from him back when he was Cambridge Hide and Fur.

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: nimzy] #7846929
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^^^^^^ You got that right Chris. Sorry, this was ment for nimzy.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Groney dont rock no more.


Groney never rocked.

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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Originally Posted by Boco
Groney dont rock no more.


Groney never rocked.


Gotta give them credit, they are still standing. That takes support.

Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7847174
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Sounds pretty low Walt but they were only rough skinned so it saves a lot of work on your end. I dropped furs off Saturday at the FHA truck and there were more people there than there was in January. Looked mostly like beaver judging from the sacks of fur.


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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: Muskratwalt] #7847176
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Sounds like it won't take lower 48 trappers long to flood their beaver market again.


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I'm not sure there are enough trappers left that know how to put up beaver (in big numbers) to get beaver levels back to what they were when we had two Canadian auction houses. Even if the May sale has double what March had it will not even be close to the numbers produced just 10-15 years ago.

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Re: Sold some fur to gfw yesterday [Re: beaverpeeler] #7847247
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I'm not sure there are enough trappers left that know how to put up beaver (in big numbers) to get beaver levels back to what they were when we had two Canadian auction houses. Even if the May sale has double what March had it will not even be close to the numbers produced just 10-15 years ago.

True...but a slight increase in current production may easily satisfy the felt market.


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Luckily the current market does not require top notch put ups or quality beaver. Actually seems to reward rush jobs. smile


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I averaged $20.50 on green beaver Friday in onalaska.50 pounds and up $32
35 to 49 pounds $20 and 22 to 34 pounds $10.Smaller yet $7.I just wrote the weights down as I caught them and compared after selling.So if you have nice beavs you get decent $.Got $3 for a 20 pound green coon.Was offered $2.50 for 3 rats and $1.25 for 8 rats stretched I kept them maybe save for the next toilet paper shortage.The highlight was a free pair of gloves for bringing in the letter he sent out with his route schedule.

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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I'm not sure there are enough trappers left that know how to put up beaver (in big numbers) to get beaver levels back to what they were when we had two Canadian auction houses. Even if the May sale has double what March had it will not even be close to the numbers produced just 10-15 years ago.

True...but a slight increase in current production may easily satisfy the felt market.


From what I'm reading there is strong growth worldwide in felt hats. The main concern I have is that they look for cheaper sources of raw felt to satisfy that demand.


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Cheaper sources, you mean synthetic? That would be a shame. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on a switch to possum felt! Lol


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Every time I put a green beaver pelt in the freezer my shoulders say thank you. I've put up enough beaver throughout my life.


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Not sure how close you are to Weibkes, Muskratwalt, but I sold a few dried beaver to him the other day for a LOT more than that. No I won't post prices on here.

Might be worth a try is all.

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Thanks Calvin. I have thought about selling to him at other times.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Not sure how close you are to Weibkes, Muskratwalt, but I sold a few dried beaver to him the other day for a LOT more than that. No I won't post prices on here.

Might be worth a try is all.

Tell it Calvin!

Your post is useless without posting the prices....lol


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Originally Posted by Muskratwalt
Thanks Calvin. I have thought about selling to him at other times.


I used to sell to them and was always treated VERY fairly!


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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Muskratwalt
Thanks Calvin. I have thought about selling to him at other times.


I was always treated VERY fairly!

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They must have just started taking them?


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I am not sure. I always sold to Jason at the Winter meeting and was extremely happy. Then again, Matt Carlson has treated me great and is 10 miles away. Even better is that I have gotten lazy and he will buy my stuff green.


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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Cheaper sources, you mean synthetic? That would be a shame. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on a switch to possum felt! Lol

Probably not synthetic, but sheep wool, nutria, etc.


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