I remember a few goofy messages from the rona. I drove across half the country in late March early April 2020 and the interstate programable signs had a message like " Stay Home Prevent Covid" . I kept thinking, "I'm not at home, how am I going to stay there?" There was a radio ad that said; "The best way to prevent the spread of covid was to get vaccinated"
I kept thinking, "The best way to prevent the spread was to avoid people" like any infectious disease.

Doctors repeat what their medical conglomeration tells them to say or they get fired. Medical conglomerations are in cahoots with pharma. Pharma pays a lot of money to the medical conglomerations.

I will give you one guess who funded pharma on the "science" of the jab. Care to take a stab at it?

See how this circle works? And a significant amount of people actually still trust medicine, pharma and the government. Absolutely baffling!!!

So the Insider claims the government had nothing to do with developing the jab?

Pfizer claimed they got no R and D money. Pfizer claimed they got a preorder on delivery from the Trump administration for 1.95 billion dollars worth of vaccine when it was ready for distribution.

It certainly is/was a real dogs breakfast. Up here it started out as 1% of the population was gonna get it so the true science is math. 1 out of every hundred. We'll take it one step further. Of that 1% that was gonna get it 4% would require hospitalization. By my way of figuring this is .04 of 100 people. Next thing you know the vax comes out and the goal posts changed almost daily. 1 vax, 2 vax, 3 vax more. The govt was handing out $100 prepaid credit cards for people to get vaxed. They also help 3 1 million lotteries for the vaxers. The govt held companies for ransom to get them to enforce a vax program which in turn made some unemployed. Many lost their livelihoods and took a beating financially contributing to suicide and substance abuse. The vax/non vax debate created many hard feelings in families and friendships that will never be restored. Unfortunately these debates still rage on and there are staunch advocates of how the govt handled this situation. These advocates I refer to as msm sheep with not much grey matter between their ears. The ones that were forced into getting the vax I feel pity for because many had little choice. Vax or eat. This was nothing more then a social experiment on control. I personally am proud to be a wolf and proud of my brothers and sisters across Canada and the USA that didn't conform.

Now we're on the brink of a helluva scrap. Why? The covid divided the citizens of the USA and Canada like nothing before. You guys down south are (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) at your leaders as we are up here. To get the unity and patriotic sense we once had we need a war to forget about all the wrongs our elected leaders have committed against its citizens. Personally I was hoping for a civil war but that might not be the case.

One thing I'd like to add is during the whole covid thing the media/govt reported cases in numbers which scared people but in reality these numbers mean nothing for instance. The media would report that the nearest city close to me had 1500 cases of covid. To some and most that might seem like a lot but not once did they say that there was 100000 people living in that city. So we're back to the perception. 1500 cases is 1.5%. Is 1.5% a pandemic or a scamdemic?

Pretty good summary. They can have their war but I still wont forget. They went way to far. Up here and in BC if you were unvaxxed you couldnt go into a hospital to see a dying relative. My sister went through that for 6 months when her husband was dying. It was really sick. The people that enforced those rules are pure evil. Many of us that wouldn't comply have said that now we know how the Nazis were able to do what they did. To few willing to stand up and say no. Im sure you remember our communist leaders comments about the unvaccinated ?? They put a lot of pressure on us. One thing is certain, now we know who our friends are. No I wont forget.

Yukon I won't forget either nor will I comply. What gets me the most is the coercion tactics they used. The crazy stuff that the bc govt came up with. Gloryholes? Lol. (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) kind of a head Dr recommends gloryholes. It really bothered me the pressure that was placed on my daughter to get vaccinated while being pregnant by her Dr and liberal aunt. This will not be forgotten. Nor will our Mla telling us to stay at home while she spent Xmas in Hawaii. It will not be forgotten that my wife and I couldn't travel 350 miles to Edmonton to see our first granddaughter for a year or the rcmp turning people around at the ab/bc border. A lot has come out of this and I've certainly learned a lot about people, the govt and liberals. Personally I have never felt hatred to anything until covid come along. Seems my list of things/people I love and cherish is mighty small compared to the other end of the spectrum.

Makethempay

How so? It's our tax dollars. I would be fine with it if it were used for gallows to stretch the necks of all those involved

Well, it COULD be that every kid that has a disagreeable stretch in childhood (99%?) is now either labeled autistic, disabled and/or medicated.

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Have you been around these kids with autism? It's not just a case of poor behavior.[/quote]
Are there kids with autism? Absolutely. Is autism a real thing? Absolutely. Do 1 in 35 kids have it? No. The numbers are always shifting in their claims, it used to be 1 in 300, then it was 1 in 150, the last I had been hearing was 1 in 100, but there are probably places claiming 1 in 35 now, I just haven't heard it. But... they changed the wording also, now they always say, "there are 1 in X kids on the autism spectrum." Excuse me? If it is a spectrum, ALL kids should be on it. Those with full blown, nonfunctional autism on one end, clear to those that have functional issues on the other end. And yes there are plenty of parents and doctors that claim kids have various ailments, including autism, because there is money in it for them. Plus some parents like the notoriety of having a "special needs" kid, or they want an excuse for their poor parenting, and claiming something is wrong with the kid and drugging them up is easier than being a good parent and actually raising the kid right and disciplining them.

My daughter teaches 4th grade in an elite private school, this year 2/3rds of her class are on the spectrum to some degree, most are unmedicated, some definitely should be.
Being the parents are wealthy, and don't want to have their kids labeled, they go to private schools that ask no questions as long as the check clears, yet the private schools don't have a special learning curriculum, or special needs teachers....Public schools will test the kids and have services for them, but are then labeled.
Her students are not being well served by the parents or the school, are disruptive, and essentially failing. Because she does as well for them as she can the admin loads her classes with these kids making her really sorry she became a teacher.
Most days she says it's like herding cats.
Not sure what the percentage should be, but it's a lot higher then years ago.

Clinical trial data on the vaccines have been hard to come by, especially trials not run by the vaccine makers themselves, and the standards for the trials have been lowered over time.

The FDA authorized shots for children based on immunobridging, or trial data that found the vaccines triggered a similar antibody response in kids than that in adults. For the new bivalent boosters, created because the original vaccines have been providing much lower levels of protection against Omicron and its subvariants, no clinical data, not even antibody measurements, was provided at all. Months later, that data is still not available to the public.

Some observational studies have estimated the boosters provide subpar protection against infection and solid protection, at least initially, against hospitalization. Randomized, controlled trials are typically considered superior.

Fraiman recommends withdrawing the vaccines and U.S. officials going to the vaccine makers and asking them to demonstrate the benefits outweigh the harms in light of the changed dynamics of the pandemic. The trials should feature investigators looking closely at each COVID-19 hospitalization to distinguish whether they were caused by COVID-19, or the COVID-19 diagnosis was incidental. That distinction is known widely as being hospitalized, or dying, with COVID-19 versus from COVID-19.

The trial would take five or six months, similar to the original ones, Fraiman says.

Other Calls
Some countries, such as Denmark, meanwhile, have stopped offering booster shots to certain segments of the population. A growing number of experts, meanwhile, are calling for the administration of the Moderna and Pfizer shots, which are by far the most administered in the United States, to be halted.

The group includes Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a British doctor who turned against the vaccines in 2022 due to the growing evidence of side effects. Malhotra’s citations included the Moderna and Pfizer trials, which showed no reduction in mortality or severe disease, and the research led by Fraiman.

Linda Wastila, director of policy and research of the Peter Lamy Center for Drug Therapy and Aging at the University of Maryland, said she agrees with Fraiman, pointing to the research as well as data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Reports of thousands of post-vaccination deaths have been lodged with the system, in addition to hundreds of thousands of injuries.

“I’m a data scientist, and I’m overwhelmed by the congruence of all these data coming together so rapidly, all painting a horrific picture of vaccine harms that really cannot be ignored,” Wastila told The Epoch Times via email.

Wastila called for the removal of the vaccines from the market immediately, at least until safety signals identified by the CDC and FDA are closely studied.

“In not doing so, FDA and the rest of government agencies pushing these products are not only placing millions at risk for injury or death, they also are successfully encouraging rapid distrust of the institutions that are supposed to protect us,” she said.

There are other experts, such as Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo, who have recommended against certain populations getting vaccinated, such as healthy young men, because they’re at higher risk of one or more side effects and stand to gain little benefit against a disease that already poses minimal risk to them. Still, other experts continue to back the vaccination of virtually all people, including Dr. Ashish Jha, coordinator of the White House COVID-19 response.

The vaccine regime is also much higher now than it was 20 years ago. Kennedy has done a lot of research in this area and i dont think theres any doubt that vaccines are responsible for some of it.

So here is more actual scientific data from clinical trials by Pfizer and Moderna that our government in conjunction with these evil corporations and lord fauxi, would not release. If you remember there was a trial of 44,000 people. Here are the results. Scroll down to the pertinent heading talking about side effects.

I truly do feel sorry for those who got the jab in hopes of a safeguard against covid. It appears we were all lied to BLATANTLY and PURPOSEFULLY.

And no one can be sued for damages.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/healt...n_5188400.html?autoRWsuccess=1#processed

And charles, I dare you to read this. You won't but I can hope.