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Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849517
04/20/23 02:01 PM
04/20/23 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by adam m
Recently a senator let it slip federal income taxes are voluntary. People have been writing to the irs stating they don't want to participate in paying federal income taxes. The irs has been confirming this and sending letters of acceptance and a voucher declaring they don't need to pay income taxes.


Why do you post this nonsense?

And why would you care? You don't have a job and, therefore, have no income to be taxed.

Awe but I do pay taxes. Every year I have to submit my taxes
Might be true might not be. Like I said it was slipped recently.
I wish I could work. You have no idea how bad I wish I could work full time. Be blessed your health issues didn't force you into a position where you cannot work reliably everyday.

Last edited by adam m; 04/20/23 02:04 PM.
Re: Taxes [Re: adam m] #7849530
04/20/23 02:21 PM
04/20/23 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Why do you post this nonsense?

And why would you care? You don't have a job and, therefore, have no income to be taxed.

Awe but I do pay taxes. Every year I have to submit my taxes
Might be true might not be. Like I said it was slipped recently.
I wish I could work. You have no idea how bad I wish I could work full time. Be blessed your health issues didn't force you into a position where you cannot work reliably everyday.


You can type. You can use a computer. You can argue with neighbors. You can post stories about going hunting. You can post stories about working on your house. You are supposedly a trapper.

You can work. Go get a job.

I'm tired of paying for people like you. This goes for the rest of the TMan Fake Disability Club too.

Re: Taxes [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7849559
04/20/23 02:52 PM
04/20/23 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by OhioBoy
The PIN number is a Turbo Tax thing I think. I get one. Its to help prove who you are so people aren't false filing your taxes for you and getting your return. My pin is 5 digits I think.


I don't do turbo tax. My PIN comes from the IRS.


Oh. Well I have a five digit pin using turbo tax. Its dumb b/c my standard pin like at the ATM is four digits and I remember having to make up a new standard five digit pin and thinking it was stupid.

Re: Taxes [Re: adam m] #7849574
04/20/23 03:11 PM
04/20/23 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Recently a senator let it slip federal income taxes are voluntary. People have been writing to the irs stating they don't want to participate in paying federal income taxes. The irs has been confirming this and sending letters of acceptance and a voucher declaring they don't need to pay income taxes.



The paying of taxes is not voluntary. Maybe you or the senator misunderstood.
What IS voluntary is complying with the tax code. In the US, citizens have the choice of complying with the tax code and voluntarily calculating their own tax liability rather than the federal government doing it for you.


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Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849575
04/20/23 03:12 PM
04/20/23 03:12 PM
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You can type. You can use a computer. You can argue with neighbors. You can post stories about going hunting. You can post stories about working on your house. You are supposedly a trapper.

You can work. Go get a job.

I'm tired of paying for people like you. This goes for the rest of the TMan Fake Disability Club too.
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Just think of it as early retirement.
People like Adam who have a disability are entitled to pay less tax,since they are limited in what they can do to provide for their family.
I just applied for a disability credit on my Income tax this year.
I was diagnosed as having a permanent percentage of hearing loss.It aint much since hearing loss doesnt preclude you from very much in the way of earning,like a busted back would.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Taxes [Re: white17] #7849576
04/20/23 03:12 PM
04/20/23 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by adam m
Recently a senator let it slip federal income taxes are voluntary. People have been writing to the irs stating they don't want to participate in paying federal income taxes. The irs has been confirming this and sending letters of acceptance and a voucher declaring they don't need to pay income taxes.



The paying of taxes is not voluntary. Maybe you or the senator misunderstood.
What IS voluntary is complying with the tax code. In the US, citizens have the choice of complying with the tax code and voluntarily calculating their own tax liability rather than the federal government doing it for you.


Agree.

Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849599
04/20/23 03:50 PM
04/20/23 03:50 PM
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Blaine get off your high horse you donkey. I've always worked since i was young teen always pay for my stuff. This is my retirement which apparently isn't good enough for you. You don't know anything about me.

Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849613
04/20/23 04:03 PM
04/20/23 04:03 PM
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Thanks Boco

Being forced into retirement isn't fun.

Might be the case White. I've been seeing videos of people posting their letters to and from the irs granting the request and obtaining a voucher from the irs to not pay taxes.

Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849618
04/20/23 04:09 PM
04/20/23 04:09 PM
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I am seriously thinking about an easier job. drive a pickup for a parts store making deliveries to auto repair shops. 8 hour days and a pickup. no d.o.t. cops, no scales. less money less stress. the hold up right now is a winter leave of absence. most of those guys dont last long. pretty sure i could quit and get rehired in the spring but rather set it up from jump


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849619
04/20/23 04:11 PM
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You cant be that naive adam. If you were paying taxes I would sugest you try it and let us know how it works out.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Taxes [Re: danny clifton] #7849626
04/20/23 04:19 PM
04/20/23 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
You cant be that naive adam. If you were paying taxes I would sugest you try it and let us know how it works out.

Lol Danny
I don't live and work on the rez. Those are the 2 requirements to not pay taxes. Majority of my pueblo who work work off the rez and we all pay. It's always been that way since I could remember. Evergreen if we worked at another tribe we still paid taxes

Last edited by adam m; 04/20/23 04:19 PM.
Re: Taxes [Re: adam m] #7849677
04/20/23 05:24 PM
04/20/23 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Blaine get off your high horse you donkey. I've always worked since i was young teen always pay for my stuff. This is my retirement which apparently isn't good enough for you. You don't know anything about me.


Right. I remember last year when you were on Tman begging for money.

Now you're going to call faking it and being on disability "retired"?

Re: Taxes [Re: Blaine County] #7849678
04/20/23 05:26 PM
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https://www.thebalancemoney.com/do-native-americans-pay-taxes-4174095

according to this no state income tax is paid but federal (IRS) still is


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Taxes [Re: danny clifton] #7849681
04/20/23 05:27 PM
04/20/23 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/do-native-americans-pay-taxes-4174095

according to this no state income tax is paid but federal (IRS) still is


Another rip off.

Re: Taxes [Re: danny clifton] #7849697
04/20/23 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I am seriously thinking about an easier job. drive a pickup for a parts store making deliveries to auto repair shops. 8 hour days and a pickup. no d.o.t. cops, no scales. less money less stress. the hold up right now is a winter leave of absence. most of those guys dont last long. pretty sure i could quit and get rehired in the spring but rather set it up from jump


I'm considering something of the same. Between taxes and insurance the stress is not worth the income. Economy may make the choice for me though

Re: Taxes [Re: adam m] #7849712
04/20/23 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Originally Posted by danny clifton
You cant be that naive adam. If you were paying taxes I would sugest you try it and let us know how it works out.

Lol Danny
I don't live and work on the rez. Those are the 2 requirements to not pay taxes. Majority of my pueblo who work work off the rez and we all pay. It's always been that way since I could remember. Evergreen if we worked at another tribe we still paid taxes


Another requirement to not pay taxes is to make less than your deductions and tax credits.


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Re: Taxes [Re: adam m] #7849747
04/20/23 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Recently a senator let it slip federal income taxes are voluntary. People have been writing to the irs stating they don't want to participate in paying federal income taxes. The irs has been confirming this and sending letters of acceptance and a voucher declaring they don't need to pay income taxes.



adam m, you would have no reason to NOT SHARE your source. I bet many of us want to see that evidence. I will wait.

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