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Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches #7851369
04/23/23 08:16 AM
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New Landpride RGR1266 forward rotary tiller:
I understand the importance of protecting the gearbox, driveline and drivetrain parts but how often do you slip the clutch on implements?; the manual says anytime it sits. I can see it ceasing if it’s left in the elements, this is on a tiller and will always be stored indoors and my plan is to do it at the beginning of each season. Does that make sense? I also see some guys saturated the disk pac with penetrating oil- not sure that's a great idea?
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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851381
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I have one on my hay baler, it’ll slip if the tines get stuck, I don’t do anything to it.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851405
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Never done anything to slip clutches except run them. Slip clutches and shear pins save a lot of riggin.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851407
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I do mine on my tiller when I get it out in the spring. I loosen all the springs and let it slip for 5- 10 seconds. You would be amazed at how tight the plates can be stuck together. Mine does set out alot though.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: newfox1] #7851425
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Double post.

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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: scrapper] #7851445
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Originally Posted by scrapper
I do mine on my tiller when I get it out in the spring. I loosen all the springs and let it slip for 5- 10 seconds. You would be amazed at how tight the plates can be stuck together. Mine does set out alot though.


X2 - Its purpose is to protect the gear box. It only works if it slips. We did that with a square baler I bought to make sure, but when we tightened the bolts down, didn't get it tight enough. Under load, clutch would slip and slug the baler. Just kept giving them all one more half turn until that stopped, but would still slip if it really hit something (like pulling a wood fence post into the bale chamber) Slipping now and then is better than blowing up a gear box or bending the frame.

Shear pins do something similar, but only if you use the grade of shear pin it was designed for. A soft pin vs. a grade 5 or 8 bolt. Use the latter and something is going to break instead of pin shearing.


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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: HayDay] #7851551
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Originally Posted by scrapper
I do mine on my tiller when I get it out in the spring. I loosen all the springs and let it slip for 5- 10 seconds. You would be amazed at how tight the plates can be stuck together. Mine does set out alot though.


X2 - Its purpose is to protect the gear box. It only works if it slips. We did that with a square baler I bought to make sure, but when we tightened the bolts down, didn't get it tight enough. Under load, clutch would slip and slug the baler. Just kept giving them all one more half turn until that stopped, but would still slip if it really hit something (like pulling a wood fence post into the bale chamber) Slipping now and then is better than blowing up a gear box or bending the frame.

Shear pins do something similar, but only if you use the grade of shear pin it was designed for. A soft pin vs. a grade 5 or 8 bolt. Use the latter and something is going to break instead of pin shearing.

I think I'll add it to the Spring PM Schedule- the rotary cutter has a grade 2 shear bolt and a nice design with a Jesus clip to keep the PTO shaft from coming off. The tiller has a grade 8 bolt holding it on so the slip clutch needs to do it's job.
Thanks for the feedback

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851567
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I slip mine. The first time of the season! It’s part of my maintenance.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851790
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I don’t worry about it, but with the disk type just take the bolts off and turn by hand those friction disks can be brittle, otherwise have a pair of them on hand, also if there is a grease zerk for the bushing make sure you grease it first if not don’t spin it for too long or you can ruin the bushing.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7851894
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Never purposely slipped a clutch or ever heard of anyone doing that in my entire farming life.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: tomahawker] #7851997
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
Never purposely slipped a clutch or ever heard of anyone doing that in my entire farming life.

X2

Eagleye, I haven't heard too many people use the term Jesus clip outside of the farmers I grew up with. You brought me back to the 70's with that phrase


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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7852677
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She’ll slip if she needs to. Just run it. You don’t want it slipping too easily causing aggravation. I don’t even grease slip clutch fittings, trust me they’ll still slip. Full time farmer here

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: tomahawker] #7852810
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
Never purposely slipped a clutch or ever heard of anyone doing that in my entire farming life.


Lol yep. Usually just happens when a guy figures to go that little bit faster. Then the work of unplugging begins.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7852829
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Interesting perspectives- we range from once per year to never.
I marked the disc pack yesterday with a grease pen, calipered over the outside clamp plates and wrote down the factory set dimensions- backed off the (8) spring bolts 2 revolutions- cycled the PTO for an interval of 5-10 seconds like scrapper mentioned- and the grease marks were misaligned as it slipped. Retightened everything and tilled the rest of the day. This thread was helpful because if it's something I don't get to every year- it doesn't sound like pending doom will be the outcome.
Thanks everyone for input.
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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: tomahawker] #7852861
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
Never purposely slipped a clutch or ever heard of anyone doing that in my entire farming life.

Me neither.


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Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7852955
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I chuckled at this thread as I never grew up farming and started learning it around 40 years old. I never heard of anyone intentionally slipping a clutch either but I know I just plan on replacing the clutch discs about every year when I burn them up. I generally get them slipping just fine when I hit a root or rock tilling and they start smoking. But, yes they definitely have save my gearboxes and $20 a year aint too bad to replace to get tilling again.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #7852973
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
I chuckled at this thread as I never grew up farming and started learning it around 40 years old. I never heard of anyone intentionally slipping a clutch either but I know I just plan on replacing the clutch discs about every year when I burn them up. I generally get them slipping just fine when I hit a root or rock tilling and they start smoking. But, yes they definitely have save my gearboxes and $20 a year aint too bad to replace to get tilling again.

Exactly- if it's slipping during normal operations, you're performing the same function. I guess they're worried about it sitting and rusting into one solid mass and then transferring the torque to the gearbox- it's all new to me.

Re: Tractor Implement- Slip Clutches [Re: Eagleye] #7852981
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Had a slip clutch on an old gleaner combine. If you over greased, it would slip too easy. Quick fix was to sprinkle a handful of dirt on it. Cold November morning my uncle was doing just that. Caught his gloved fingers in the chain and took em around the sprocket. Lost 3 fingers.

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On the flip side, had one slipping on a 7720, we tried everything. Just kept slippin. So we crank the bolts on the slip clutch went about 30 ft and puked the straw walkers clean out the back. Slip clutch was working! One or two of them dang wood blocks around straw walkers was froze up and so was our brains.

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Lol dang tomahawker sounds like you operate farm like we do! Used to have 7720, then 9500, then 9650 now I’m running a s660. If it’s a slip clutch I ain’t greasing it on a combine! The one I burn up the most is on the 15 ft bush hog bat wing mower. She’s tough, but if it gets too thick you’ll see the smoke roll from the slip disc. I’m guilty of tightening the bolts few turns keep on cutting, but will replace once the job gets finished.

Your uncle won’t put dirt on another I bet

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