Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 01:36 PM
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You should be able to find a nice Winchester Model 12 trap for WELL within your budget.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 02:21 PM
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nothing wrong with just getting the IC 1100 threaded for chokes if it fits him
lots of guns work I shot a 23 with my 870 20 inch barrel on Friday those 2 were most definitely me , I was getting too sure of my self and was shooting them with a full choke a few yards out of the house
you need 3 things in a trap gun
what order can vary fit is king pattern is probably next but that depends if your shooting 25, 50 , 100 in a row 3rd is a little weight or action to take up recoil
4th is durability but your only shooting trap loads so not really abusive
pattern you play with loads and chokes , like I said I shoot full , I am more practicing for pheasants and hunting than I am worried about score. I want the tightest pattern and longest range , at 16 yards it makes little difference what choke you use and most any shell will work well enough
there was a time a "trap" gun was a long barrel vent rib break action single shot , then if you shoot doubles a over under
you might just find a barrel for that 1100 with a full or mod choke or choke tubes and he is all set , sometimes if the fit could be just a bit better adding a Morgan pad will get you there. for now if you can get him a barrel with choke tubes or send yours off to be threaded you will be in buissness breaking clay and he can learn what he likes.
will he get into sporting clays ? skeet? 5 stand ? the Berretta A300 is a semi auto that could do well in all of those sports
every compeditor learns what they like what fits them and it is typically by trying rental gun or other compreditors guns , so get lots of ammo with your budget now and figure out where he wants to go as he gets better.
I know we want to buy one great tool to last a lifetime, but sometimes really competitive shooters need to find what they like by trying many things
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 02:28 PM
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Benelli M2 is a soft shooting auto if it fits him right full range of chokes.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 02:43 PM
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Hard to beat a good old Browning BT-99 for a sub $1200 trap gun. Even a new model BT is around $1500. Auto loaders are nice for eating felt recoil, but small framed shooters might as well be swinging a 4x4.
My next choice would be a Browning citori or berretta O/U
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 02:44 PM
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A browning BT-99 or BT-100 is probably the best gun for what you are wanting to spend. It is single shot only though. If he gets into shooting doubles then you will need a O/U or an auto. If you can find an older Remington 1100 Trap model he could shoot everything with that and parts are easy to get if something ever breaks.
If your budget was higher then I would suggest a Beretta Multi-Target semi auto. The nice thing about these is they have and adjustable rib and adjustable comb. That adjustability allows you to set the gun up to shoot where he is looking.
If he does get really hooked on trap shooting he will end up really wanting a top of the line trap gun so make sure he goes to college and gets a good degree in something that pays very well. LOL
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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04/25/23 03:39 PM
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it also depends on what his goal is , most of my 4-H trap kids are hunters who enjoy the practice.
got 2 running OU right now the rest are pump and auto "field" guns , my son bounced around a few guns mostly he wanted to try everything he could when he settled down it was an early 870 special purpose which was basically 870 police with a 28 inch vent rib barrel and poly stock he was shooting 25s , not every round but mostly it was nerves he would get to the 20s and then so close drop one.
if it is for fun and hunting practice , then run your hunting gun.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
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04/25/23 04:25 PM
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Right now - only the 3 of them shooting for our county.
We are in a weird place , post covid and anyone in the 12-15 range would have been born during the recession we have 5 currently for the county while we have like 50 kids in grade 3-5 for air rifle they are all on the young side <12 we and several other counties are seeing it across the powder burring 4-H shooting sports that require 12+age I was at two state trainings and found others seeing nearly the same drop in numbers in 12-15 year old's I encourage you go take the state training to be a leader , you will learn a bunch and can then accompany your son to any level he wants to go to including nationals if he gets there. it is a great way to learn and support the program. don't worry at all about what you don't know , this is 4-H we train people rather than look for just subject mater experts we look for them also to give you some really good instruction on how to hit clay yourself and how to teach it to the kids. one good trap instructor can teach a lot of county leaders to be good at getting kids the basics.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
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04/25/23 04:30 PM
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Hard to beat a good old Browning BT-99 for a sub $1200 trap gun. Even a new model BT is around $1500. Auto loaders are nice for eating felt recoil, but small framed shooters might as well be swinging a 4x4.
My next choice would be a Browning citori or berretta O/U Yep I agree. If recoil is a issue a guy could outfit it with kick down recoil pad and/or a mercury tube.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
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04/25/23 04:33 PM
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thanks for the help - I knew some of you know a ton more about breaking clays than me. I grew up shooting at bottles my dad threw for me and moved on to quail hunting and dove hunting........ Look around for a shotgun reloader. He'll shoot 500 or more shells at a shoot easy and then throw in practice nights. Good luck and enjoy.
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Re: What new trap gun for youth?
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04/25/23 04:49 PM
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thanks for the help - I knew some of you know a ton more about breaking clays than me. I grew up shooting at bottles my dad threw for me and moved on to quail hunting and dove hunting........ Look around for a shotgun reloader. He'll shoot 500 or more shells at a shoot easy and then throw in practice nights. Good luck and enjoy. the price of lead shot here and primers is ridiculous , price it all out before you jump in I was getting 85 dollar a case federal check with your 4-H leader they are probably watching deals , I was able to get the 4-H 79 dollar cases with the discount and tax ID , us leaders were able to get it for our personal use at 85+tax same stuff prices on 12 ga target loads in the US bought at case price have been pennies from what you could load it for for years now
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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