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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859464
05/04/23 05:02 PM
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Ya'll really need to watch the movie Ex Machina. Wild stuff, but I see it probable. Could an AI become conscience and self aware? If so, what would be the implications of that.....a super intelligent non human being with no soul?



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Re: AI [Re: yukon254] #7859465
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Originally Posted by yukon254
AI might not always be what you think it is either.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XiBZz28U9c



Certainly could be a portal.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859486
05/04/23 05:43 PM
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There are many ways that AI could become what ever, depending on the amount of influence an operating party has on it.

In one instance it can parlay into the religious realm of some, others could be caught up in the science of health and helping others to be well, and still others in politics, etc and etc.

Where does it stop ? We don't know if it will or if it could be controlled, there are manifestations of it as the vid above seemingly explores, is it true, could it be, is it possible, yes very possible, however in my view now its just a game with people trying to impress others with knowledge to talk about it. The obvious birth of AI has happened, how fast it grows is dependent on humans watching and controlling it, sad thing is which humans can we trust to do such a thing ?

It's a very real entity and it is developing with human interest helping it, when does this help stop being needed, will surely be a sign that should not be ignored !

This isn't and EV verse's ICE debate, this is way beyond that !


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Re: AI [Re: Chancey] #7859489
05/04/23 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Ya'll really need to watch the movie Ex Machina. Wild stuff, but I see it probable. Could an AI become conscience and self aware? If so, what would be the implications of that.....a super intelligent non human being with no soul?


Give that big fluffy bear to Mr. Chancey. Nailed it . In fact i think we are pretty close to that point right now.
Think about it, computing power doubles every two years .
Couple advanced AI with the things that Boston Dynamics and others are building and working on and we could have a real problem on our hands

Heck even today ...if ya don't know something want do you do ..... " ya google it " right and then depend on it that your search engine of choice is giving you the right answer how to fix the brakes on your truck....... get where I am going with this ???


Let's go Brandon

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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859493
05/04/23 05:51 PM
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I worry that sometime in the future they will have a small mechanical device that will harness an unknown power source that will zap the candidates heart into beating after it has stopped or attempted to stop. I believe that bionic person will then be forced to take the souls of others to continue to feed the mechanical device in order to live for eternity....

You suppose that's what folks were thinking when the pace maker was invented?

Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859497
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Just think of the advancements it could make to beer, wine, and whisky!!!

After what could go wrong. It's not like we all haven't seen the movies.

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Re: AI [Re: TrapperDR] #7859506
05/04/23 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
I worry that sometime in the future they will have a small mechanical device that will harness an unknown power source that will zap the candidates heart into beating after it has stopped or attempted to stop. I believe that bionic person will then be forced to take the souls of others to continue to feed the mechanical device in order to live for eternity....

You suppose that's what folks were thinking when the pace maker was invented?

A AI implanted brain that can diagnose problems with the system(human body) and use nanotechnology for repair. Look out Doc, you might become unemployed. smile

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Re: AI [Re: ] #7859508
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Wait I thought AI was going to eliminate the human race? Why did those dirty robots change their artificial brain programming and decide to doctor us? Ohh cause they grew feeling and a conscious after few generations which in their time would only be a few weeks, correct?

Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859510
05/04/23 06:44 PM
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It’s exhausting.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859514
05/04/23 06:57 PM
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Oh c'mon Hobbie, no its not exhausting, we just have to prepare ourselves and our families for what is coming down the pike.

Heck we are all pretty much cyborgs now anyway. I'm a Gen Xer and in order for me do do my job, it is expected that I have a smart phone to answer emails, calls, zoom, etc. Seems everyone under 60 that has a job is totally tied to there phones nearly 24/7 anyway. I'm getting to the point where I don't want to have to learn new stuff, but in order to be relevant, sure seems like I'm gonna have to if I want to keep the job I currently have.

I think the biggest immediate implication of AI is the sudden reduction in a human being-powered workforce.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859528
05/04/23 07:29 PM
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First smart phone I had was a blackberry. Made my job lots easier. In fact a mobile phone installed in my truck about 85 or 86 was a game changer and didnt work unless i was in a city. Even then no one could call me unless they knew what tower to call. I am not to worried. Computers need electricity. If HAL does run amok the planet earth is not a space ship. Shutting off the juice is easy.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859547
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It's easy now, might not be the same when it needs to be done then !


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Re: AI [Re: GritGuy] #7859556
05/04/23 08:15 PM
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Of course it won't be. Those pesky robots will be popping Duracells like NoDoz and we won't have a chance!!!

Re: AI [Re: GritGuy] #7859561
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
It's easy now, might not be the same when it needs to be done then !


I agree with you GritGuy. I think the implications of it all could potentially become anything but humorous.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7859568
05/04/23 08:39 PM
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the main issue now with ai is that 'they' feed into it everything available and use it to predict the out comes to things 'they' plan to do.


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Re: AI [Re: danny clifton] #7859574
05/04/23 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
First smart phone I had was a blackberry. Made my job lots easier. In fact a mobile phone installed in my truck about 85 or 86 was a game changer and didnt work unless i was in a city. Even then no one could call me unless they knew what tower to call. I am not to worried. Computers need electricity. If HAL does run amok the planet earth is not a space ship. Shutting off the juice is easy.

Cutting off the juice would be easy if you knew where it was. Look at people hacking into systems today. We can't find them. Companies pay million dollar ransom fees to have their systems released. AI will be much smarter than these hackers by a long ways. That and I believe the threats posed by AI will be mostly behind the scenes so to speak and the general population won't realize AI controlling the situation. What if AI became smart enough to easily hack into most any system it wanted and use it as a host and bounce from system to system staying ahead of any threat. I don't think most of us have much grasp of the cyber world.

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Re: AI [Re: TrapperDR] #7859578
05/04/23 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
Wait I thought AI was going to eliminate the human race? Why did those dirty robots change their artificial brain programming and decide to doctor us? Ohh cause they grew feeling and a conscious after few generations which in their time would only be a few weeks, correct?

Integration not elimination. AI needs us to replace power poles, dig ditches, etc. Keep the power on. Kind of like a virus needs a host to flourish.

Re: AI [Re: Yes sir] #7859597
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The only reason that companies pay millions of dollars in ransom fees (because of ransomware attacks) is that the cost of being down long enough to remove the ransomware is not cost effective to do so.

Often times CIO's (Chief Information Officers) have the knowledge and ability to unlock ransomware but it doesn't financially make sense to go that route pending how deep the ransomware got into their files. Simple analogy: You have an important tree cutting job, you broke your chainsaw the night before. You have the parts and brain power to fix it but you will lose the account due to the amount of time it would take. What do you do? Buy a new chainsaw and bite the bullet since the gains are going to pay that chainsaw back off anyway.

Can someone tell me what exactly what AI will be looking to accomplish by attacking human civilization? Is AI trying to get a bigger house, a boat for the weekends, maybe a new car to impress his lady AI friends? One would think that AI (being all intelligent) would see that it has no physical needs or wants for worldly possessions. Or is it that AI would want to be human... the thing that it is so much smarter than and more advanced? AI is so smart it wants to dumb itself down?

Re: AI [Re: Chancey] #7859600
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Originally Posted by Chancey
I think the goal of all this AI mess is transhumanism. The global elite want to live forever and implant their brain and nervous system with AI.


Transhumanism has been widely championed for several decades now by progressivists. But then since time began, humanists have harbored (i.e. worshiped) their own abilities leaving very little room for the true Creator and the One to whom all Authority was given.

AI is quite interesting and all of us in the West are already benefactors of its productivity because it's in the supply chain already.
The stuff in life keeps evolving, that's for sure.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: AI [Re: TrapperDR] #7859609
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
The only reason that companies pay millions of dollars in ransom fees (because of ransomware attacks) is that the cost of being down long enough to remove the ransomware is not cost effective to do so.

Often times CIO's (Chief Information Officers) have the knowledge and ability to unlock ransomware but it doesn't financially make sense to go that route pending how deep the ransomware got into their files. Simple analogy: You have an important tree cutting job, you broke your chainsaw the night before. You have the parts and brain power to fix it but you will lose the account due to the amount of time it would take. What do you do? Buy a new chainsaw and bite the bullet since the gains are going to pay that chainsaw back off anyway.

Can someone tell me what exactly what AI will be looking to accomplish by attacking human civilization? Is AI trying to get a bigger house, a boat for the weekends, maybe a new car to impress his lady AI friends? One would think that AI (being all intelligent) would see that it has no physical needs or wants for worldly possessions. Or is it that AI would want to be human... the thing that it is so much smarter than and more advanced? AI is so smart it wants to dumb itself down?


Ai would understand that humans are a infestation and a threat to earth


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