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Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865543
05/14/23 05:35 PM
05/14/23 05:35 PM
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About 20 years ago my best friend and his wife divorced. She was given custody of their son and found someone new and remarried... I don't know all the details and wouldn't share them anyway. But I think she must have regretted the divorce and was unhappy in the new marriage.

So she put the boy to bed. Went out in the garage and started the car. Her new husband had tried to call her and didn't get an answer... So he came home, found her in the car, and called EMS.

My friend's son saw her being loaded in the ambulance. He was just days short of his 5th birthday.

And I was there when my friend had to tell his son that she wasn't coming home.

That was almost 20 years ago and I can still remember exactly how that little boy reacted and what he said. Not a conversation I would ever wish to be party to again in my life.

That experience caused me to form some fairly strong opinions on the topic. So I'm just going to stop there.

I'm sorry HT. I wish I had some sage advice to pass along. But I don't. Some things never make any sense no matter which angle you look at it from.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865603
05/14/23 07:30 PM
05/14/23 07:30 PM
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Ohio
My best friend did it. Family and friends have no answers. He had retired early and seemed to be enjoying life.?????


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Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865613
05/14/23 07:46 PM
05/14/23 07:46 PM
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A couple co workers I knew over the years offed themselves,for different reasons.
One guy was a nice guy when sober but when drinking,(which he did fairly regular) he was like a bomb ready to go off.
Always got in fights in the hotels,and didnt always come out on the winning end.
I could tell something deep down was bothering him.
When he was a small boy his mother was decapitated in a car crash coming back one night from bingo out of town,and his older brother(who was nothing like him)said that bothered him all his life.The guy was a loner with no friends or girlfriend.
One day in summer he drove out on an old bush road drank a case of beer in the car with the engine running and a hose from the tailpipe into the car.
No one knew where he was for about 6 weeks,when he was found by a fisherman.

The other fellow was a young guy with young children.He got separated from his wife and she took custody of the kids and made it difficult for him to see the kids,I guess he got depressed and took his own life.Not sure how he did it,a gun I think.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865630
05/14/23 08:17 PM
05/14/23 08:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
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There were people from his college and even folks from Michigan, where he was starting this new job, at his funeral. The young man apparently made quite an impact on people’s lives. Makes it even harder to understand that he didn’t see his value being here.


Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 05/14/23 08:17 PM.

-Goofy
Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865635
05/14/23 08:19 PM
05/14/23 08:19 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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I appreciate everybody’s response and sharing of experiences also. Thank you.


-Goofy
Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865642
05/14/23 08:25 PM
05/14/23 08:25 PM
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My college roommate committed suicide our senior year. Upbeat and always smiling, his parents found him hanging in the attic of the house. Still can't make sense out of his death.

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865672
05/14/23 09:09 PM
05/14/23 09:09 PM
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John 10:10

Ed Patrick - Thank you for the honesty of your testimony. Please know the more you share the love of Christ and how He changed your life - others will be moved. Rev 12:11. We can overcome through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If anyone reading has even the slightest inclination to destroy the life that God has given you, please know that there are many people that truly love you and above all Jesus Christ has an unimaginable love for you beyond your greatest dream. Call upon Him in your times of trials and pain and wait upon Him. He loves you more than I could ever tell you. Please please learn to cry out to our Creator and allow Him to carry your burdens. There is true freedom in Jesus Christ. He loves you!

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865684
05/14/23 09:21 PM
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Had a 55 year old first cousin lean over a 20 gauge in 2016 and touched it off , I forgave him for what he did but never for what he did to the family, if you’re terminally ill I could understand but for the life of me what is better than being outdoors and living life

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #7865689
05/14/23 09:24 PM
05/14/23 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
John 10:10

Ed Patrick - Thank you for the honesty of your testimony. Please know the more you share the love of Christ and how He changed your life - others will be moved. Rev 12:11. We can overcome through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If anyone reading has even the slightest inclination to destroy the life that God has given you, please know that there are many people that truly love you and above all Jesus Christ has an unimaginable love for you beyond your greatest dream. Call upon Him in your times of trials and pain and wait upon Him. He loves you more than I could ever tell you. Please please learn to cry out to our Creator and allow Him to carry your burdens. There is true freedom in Jesus Christ. He loves you!


Amen brother.

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865743
05/14/23 10:22 PM
05/14/23 10:22 PM
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The one I never understood happened about a decade ago and was actually the son of a trapper. The boy was, I believe, 11 years old. He came home from school, tossed his bookbag on the chair, said hello to his dad who was sitting on the couch, walked into his bedroom and blew his head off. What in the world could ever make a child do something like that?

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865911
05/15/23 08:12 AM
05/15/23 08:12 AM
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I have had to deal with this within my own family . It is an experience I would not want to put on anyone .And as LawDog said It is going to get worse .Society today has brainwashed people into believing that life should be fair and everyone that wants something should get what they want .Only in the dream world of politics is life fair Every one does not get what t t hey want And soe that seeming get far more than t hey earned And when everyone gets a trophy just for showing up failure is more than some can handle . And effort is no lo rewarded At the same time people that have mental health issues that are treatable had alot of obstacles hindering them from getting the help needed to seek out those treatments For example in many states if you are involuntarily committed to a mental health facility you can lose your right to own a gun permanently Plus far to ofte programs have been set up but never funded so while all the info is there it actually is nothing more than talk is cheap and help is your own problem to figure out The term victimless crimes is another way that people that ar in need of help are left to fend for themselves THE (VICTIMS ) ARE USED UP BY SOCIETY as those more powerful take advantage of the less powerful And when use dup are tossed to the side There was a time in this country that the truly needy could get help to get themselves back on track Now we are a society of using the system to maintain a lifestyle .

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865932
05/15/23 08:47 AM
05/15/23 08:47 AM
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Self worth is a strange thing beautiful people think they are unattractive, people that have so much are lonely and often lost for what seems for no reason to us. Just look at eating disorders and the way the mind tricks a person into seeing what’s not the case. Child molesters convince themselves a child is a willing participant when that’s not the case.

That’s one reason you should not pick on the less fortunate imagine the impact to gang up on an already struggling person to think you’re “ manly” to do such a thing. You would think that time could be better used to help them rather than hurt them for “fun”. That supports the lack of self worth idea when a stronger person feels the need to pick on a weaker person to feel better about themselves. Sad but true it happens all of the time.

One thing I noticed over the years is mental health is not a perfect practice as the ones involved have fancy names for their ideas but seem as unsure as others involved when it comes the real problems.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: yotetrapper30] #7865937
05/15/23 08:55 AM
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While we will neve know why someone would end their own life whatever the reason that caused them to do it. That reason has set in motion a series of events that never go away What reason would cause an 11 year old to kill himself It may have been trivial. to all the rest of the world But to him it meant the end of the world. Sadly some of what has been posted here is in a way and opportunity for those that have been touched by a life changing event a chance to express some of the feelings concerning the horror that comes with it Because I like many on here have known someone very well and lost them They often do not get a chance to talk about their grief and pain This is not exactly the kind of chit chat that goes on during having a cup of coffee and eating a donut And quite frankly it rips my guts out to recall many aspects of it And because I have been in a situation and had to learn how to cope with it I can be very offended by some peoples lack of understanding of those that have mental health problems and seemingly they can not get real help.

Re: Difficult to Understand Tragedy [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7865950
05/15/23 09:25 AM
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Lord Jesus - thank you for allowing w side rd 151 to open up and expose his true feelings and inner pain. I pray that you continue to guide this individual and begin to heal these hurts. Lord I pray that You can utilize this situation to reach out to others that may be struggling and may they learn to lean on You in these times of need and open up and confide in one another. God, I pray that You begin to work in all our lives in a mighty way so that the lost may be found and become alive in Christ Jesus. Lord above all, please let w side rd 151 know they are truly loved

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