https://pjmedia.com/columns/megan-f...als-without-costly-vet-approval-n1698371

Apparently the FDA is no longer going to allow farmers directly to buy medications for their live stock. Got to have a vet from now on.

This can't end well.

Sounds like the vets have a pretty good lobby helping them out.

Donor government at its best

Ridiculous. I have a few sows and alls this does is make it harder to keep my animals healthy.

"Land of the free" what a joke.

Nothing new. Here's a screen shot of one of the slides from my Diseases of the Brood PowerPoint talk I've been presenting for years. Even presented it as a break out session at our state conference.



They put this on us beekeepers in 2017. It governs antibiotics in feeds and requires veterinary diagnosis. Anyone know of any bee vets?

There ain't none that ain't a beekeeper.

BTW, EFB and AFB are European Foulbrood and American Foulbrood respectively. The former totally treatable easily cleared often without the use of antibiotics if caught early. However, once found in an apiary best practice is preventive treatment of all colonies to stop the spread as it is highly contagious. The latter is bee plague and antibiotics can only mask active symptoms but cannot touch the spore state of the bacterium. Spores that can persist for decades. The only effective treatment is fire, burn the bees hives and all infected material. Matter of fact it is required by law in all states I'm familiar with.

That played a big part in it. The vets need to have a verifiable relationship with clients to write those vfds. All the vets around here jumped right on board and started charging 200 to 800 dollars to all their clients for that "relationship" even though they had been clients most times for years and years. I have seen more over use and misuse of these " medically" important drugs in people than I have in livestock

Hmm, they wouldn't be trying to limit that over use or miss use for the next pandemic would they.....can't buy those medically important drugs at the farm store....nah they wouldn't try that

Had the vet come out today so we could order all the supplies to AI the cattle. She just verified we had cattle and that was it. Had her vaccinate the horses and dog while she was here.

This rule was due to feedlots feeding healthy animals antibiotics because it increased weight gain. Something needed to be done to stop that nonsense.

Yet, the major bee supply house Mann Lake is pushing this product.



Under their recently acquired poultry division. And since pigeons are not considered a food livestock no VFD required.

BTW, dirty little open secret. Larger commercial bee operations have long had their blue shop towel homebrew formulations of amitraz for varroa control and many have been known to dose regularly with oxytet or tylosin to keep AFB in check long enough to collect on pollination contracts.

Any wonder that AFB hotspots are all in major commercial pollination areas.

Everybody in my Beagle club would do our own shots, ie: rabies, distemper etc, takes 10 minutes to learn how, at a cost of $2 or 3 per dog, The Vets got their pointy little heads together and stopped that. Now its like a $100 per dog!

I always did. Rabies couldn't by state law but I knew an old country vet. He operated on the theory that us country boys knew what we were doing and wouldn't be nickeled and dimed on the small stuff but if we really needed him for an emergency we would pay up no questions asked.

And yet they allow preteens to take all sorts of hormones.

Hmmm.
It's almost like they have an agenda....

Good luck finding a large animal vet in this country that travels.

Then they need to concentrate on the feedlots if that is where the problem is. Leave everyone else alone.

There's major consequences to the overuse of antibiotics, for everyone. If your vet charges outrageous fees to come out once a year talk to them about that, the rule makes sense.

Thought the issue was build up of a resistance to antibiotics if they are overused kind of along the lines of how MRSA came about? In the past they sold antibiotic powders that went in the livestock water supply at the farm supply stores that treated everything rather the an individual animal unless separated for treatment.

Wish I could just make up rules like that.

I sure hope anyone who supports this new rule admits to being a card carrying registered Democrat. It's a complete load of manure. The conglomerate livestock companies have their own vet on staff, wonder how much restraint is exercised. And this in a world that any row crop farmer can pretty much apply any alphabet soup of chemicals into the open environment at will. I have no doubt which situation has done the most harm.