I got my Democrat card in the mail when they sent me a stamped ballot already filled out for Biden...

Sometimes rules make sense, there's always the libertarian paradise of Somalia and Congo for those who want a free for all... warning, that's probably where the next antibiotic resistant strains of all sorts of nasty stuff will come from.

Donner have you ever even step foot in a feedlot

I have two, one poultry, one beef.

We got one in the county south of me. Good gal with some common sense my go to when I end up with EFB and need to buy oxytet.

No such thing as a poultry feedlot. Poultry are raised start to finish under one roof.

We get feedlot permits for poultry barns and they are classified as feedlots here. It's a 600x60' barn that does 40,000 birds 6 times a year from day old to finished.

Travel vets are common out here with portable head gates and to work/check cattle special vet boxes in the truck beds are common.

That's what they want. I sat in on a feral swine workshop and it was obviously clear that the state was backing the commercial pork guys with their negative comments on backyard pork producers.

I got the impression that the govt's idea of protecting our food supply from disease is to ban all individual private food production in favor of pooling it all in the hands of corporate interests where it can be regulated.

Seems counterintuitive putting all your eggs in the same basket.

Folks whether you believe it or not they are going to control or food here shortly. Enjoy growing that garden and livestock while you can. It is all in the name of food safety, which most people buy in to because everyone wants safe food, But for the government it is about control.

There is always an out for the large commercial operations in the new rules, in this case hey already have a vet on staff.

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Hmm, they wouldn't be trying to limit that over use or miss use for the next pandemic would they.....can't buy those medically important drugs at the farm store....nah they wouldn't try that[/quote]
Anyone dumb enough to use Ivermectin Horse Wormer as a Medical Human Use is a complete idiot. Horse wormer is used for a specific worm and used in their Diet for a reason. BTW you can still buy Zimmectrin.

I'm a complete idiot. But not too many will say it in front of me. And the the people that tried to make it taste like apples are idiots too. I'm guessing they made it smell like apples more for the owners than the horses. Just my two cents.

My opinion the horse wormer is safer than how the majority protected or tried to protect themselves from some diseases

Just so you guys fully understand the rule.

You can still treat your own animals, you can get hormones, antibiotics, etc and treat whatever yourself however once a year to get the drugs a vet will verify you actually own animals. If you have a good vet they literally drive by and see the cows and ask you to sign a form.

If they come out once a year for anything else it also counts towards verifying you actually own stock.

I agree it's inconvenient if you have a couple sows and need some supplies for one that ran into a bit of trouble, hopefully your vet is understanding and doesn't charge more than a few bucks to stop by and say hi and have you sign the form every year.

That's all well and good as most of us know a guy who is a vet. A simple phone call is all it takes to get a signature for little to no cost.

UNTIL some alphabet agency starts auditing the vets. Did you do a full physical exam to diagnose disease? After all it is their license on the line.

I already know of many vets who refuse to sign off on VFDs on that principle alone, and rightly so I might add.

So the end game plan seems to be either costs or lack of access will shut down the ability to medicate for many small producers.

Chevron Doctrine is on it's way out so this garbage will end.

Yes a licensed vet can easily check one's place and sign for you. We have lots of vets around here and many farmers buy their products from the vets, as they can buy in really large quantities and also can be shipped directly to the farm or farmer. There will also be a lot of product sold OTC like it always has been, just like at a drug store. There will be some compromising on these issues and yes the vets do have a strong lobby and some vets really do want to do all the herd health work. There are places out west in the large herd areas where there are few if any vets other than the supply issues which have been the case for decades for many products.
I don't know the political push right now on this as antibiotic usage is not going up, if not dropping and substances in product is extremely low. Part of this is due over the last decades with farmers using far less antibiotics, sulphers and treatments. Many farmers today on the larger operations with available help milk mastitis cows every couple hours for 1-2 days if they don't clear up they cull them. A 1500 lbs. cull Holstein can buy you a springing heifer or one calved in practically. Why take the risk.
Bryce