flat vs hole sets
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05/28/23 01:43 PM
05/28/23 01:43 PM
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Punxsutawney, Pa.
MinkGuy
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Punxsutawney, Pa.
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For Coyote- who here uses primarily flat sets or mostly only dirt hole variations?
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
#7873632
05/28/23 02:34 PM
05/28/23 02:34 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Ames, IA
MikeTraps2
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Ames, IA
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I use them side by side as I always make 2 sets for coyotes at any location. Catch more in dirtholes, but catch bigger, older coyotes in the flat sets. I do put in a post set now and then at crossroads etc.
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 02:43 PM
05/28/23 02:43 PM
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La Crosse, WI
Macthediver
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La Crosse, WI
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I'm with MikeTraps2 on this one. I rarely make a single set at any location. I usually have a hole and flat set within 5 to 10 yards of each other. I have started out with two hole sets but never two flats sets. Some times when a hole gets blown up I make the catch circle a flat set or add a backer for a post.
Mac
"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 03:23 PM
05/28/23 03:23 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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For me the two advantages of a dirt hole are ability to control foot placement and that they have to work to get to attractant Same here. I like tbones for flat sets. like a dirthole it gives them a visual. They will move around more. Just pee on a standout already there is good but getting the trap in the sweet spot is a lot tougher. They dont move their feet all over the place, its impossible to predict how the set will be approached. Yes play the wind, lay stuff on the ground to help guide feet but wind changes and so does the animals approach. If a coyote comes in to a dirthole its rare it doesnt get caught. I have more misses at straight up flat sets.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 03:25 PM
05/28/23 03:25 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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I got no problem making multiple sets at a location all 100% the same either. When coyote #2 or 3 or 7 shows up, the same set will catch them too
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 06:32 PM
05/28/23 06:32 PM
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The Hill Country of Texas
Leftlane
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The Hill Country of Texas
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Bad Karma gave some advice here that I still follow. If a location is hot, 1 hole, 1 flat, and 1 post go in. I still practice that coyote trapping but I play the cats a little differently.
Yes Sir, you are great at keeping track of percentages so you will like this. By using Bad Karma's "triangle of death" theory, the animals will tell you what your most deadly and least worked sets are. When you notice pups hitting the holes and wary old timers marking the area and getting snagged it is eye opening.
�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.� Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 09:06 PM
05/28/23 09:06 PM
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Wy
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Wy
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Both, Like Mr Kelley said veriety. There's to many factors, population, food source, geology, is it pasture farm ground, breeding season???. Rocky, sandy, clay sod, frozen???
If you're on a low population of coyotes with a good available food base they are going to be tough. With out competition and hunger the only real instinct you have to work with is territory and Greed. Gland lure and or urine at a flatset or if you can find a curiosity scent to get them exited. Stomach contents of a fox or coyote you've caught in a natural looking dirt hole. Mimic holes you see where you are trapping. Also fresh bait in a deep dirt hole covered with dirt, don't worry they will smell it and they usually won't pass it buy to many times before warking the set. In a high population with a low pray base , coyotes can be easy Like fox setting heavy with a veriety of sets and smells. If there's a high coyote population I lean towards dirt holes ptety hard, with bait. Then when things start to go cold I fill in with flat sets and trail sets.
Christ is King
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 10:06 PM
05/28/23 10:06 PM
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Oakland, MS
Drifter
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Oakland, MS
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More flat sets as time goes by. Helps give them something they haven't seen yet.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic
Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/28/23 11:31 PM
05/28/23 11:31 PM
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Central, SD
Law Dog
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Central, SD
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Mainly flat sets for me we just have a lot of opportunity here to use them one step off the trails or on the sides of the roads.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/29/23 07:35 AM
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west virginia usa
randall brannon
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west virginia usa
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I am like the others. I make more than one set at every location. One is always a Dirthole while the other will be something else. I save all of my Drippings from from my Charcoal Grill and make some Campfire/Flat sets nearby or else a Flat or a Post but usually one will be a Dirt Hole or both will be. Even snaring I usually put in several especially on a small trail being heavy used.
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: flat vs hole sets
[Re: MinkGuy]
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05/29/23 09:20 AM
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Central, SD
Law Dog
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Central, SD
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If I do dirt holes I use a small stake hole or use a huge badger hole not much in between.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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