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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: yotetrapper30] #7877310
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by KeithC
The Pilgrims Senior Elder, William Brewster, my 12th great grandfather, brought and used the Geneva Bible,

https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/kjv_america/#:~:text=The%20Pilgrims%20arrived%20in%201620,the%20increasing%20flow%20of%20settlers.

The King James Bible was seen as the bible of the king, who they disagreed with.

My many ancestors in Jamestown used the Geneva Bible too.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hbu.edu/publications/museums/newsletter/vol-04_issue3_04-07bia.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi-7-How6X_AhUjg4kEHUgSB_wQFnoECB4QBg&usg=AOvVaw2BM79J1tEPASUWU_sEfrdk

My Quaker ancestors, used the Quaker Bible.

Keith


The quakers were psychotic. Which explains a lot.

People are psychotic.
God is great, beer is good, and peaple are crazy. grin


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: Giant Sage] #7877370
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by waggler
That's okay, there are several other good versions that are just as accurate if not more-so.

Thems fightin words. Lol.
This is interesting , the kjv is the version the LDS church uses probably 60% of homes in Utah have several copies.

Not really. The Mormons (LDS) use the "LDS version" if the KJV. They had to make some monifications of it in order to fit their theology. I suppose they want the general populous to think they use the KJV since most people are familiar with it.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877371
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If all the different denominations would just quit arguing and shoot it out the winner would be the one with the correct version and interpretation


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877400
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It's interesting that each different church has to rewrite the Bible to fit their ideas.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: Gary Benson] #7877406
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's interesting that each different church has to rewrite the Bible to fit their ideas.

Sure is.

Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: Gary Benson] #7877416
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's interesting that each different church has to rewrite the Bible to fit their ideas.


Not exactly so. Most mainstream denominations accept one core canon and all of the various versions are in fundamental agreement on the text varying only in methodology of translation of the accepted textus receptus. The two extremes being word for word translation and thought for thought translation.

The exception being the catholic acceptance of the apocryphal books and the protestant not.

However there are a few non Christian, as in denying the divinity of Christ, denominations such as LDS and the watchtower jevohahs witness who did a complete rewrite not based upon the original textus receptus but instead written to support their perverted theology.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: waggler] #7877428
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Waggler,
The Morman church has not changed the text of the kjv. They have however added foot notes and commentaries to the kjv to as you said fit there theology. Realy no different than most any bible with commentary. Such as Scofields reference bible that peaple teach and refer to as being dogmatic in some cases. I'm not a fan of any sort of comintary in the bible. I believe the Holy Spirit is the teacher and weather it be kjv or niv ect, if you're part of the body of Christ, redeemed, saved,or born again. Just to be clear then the translation is not your redemption. Only buy grace are ye saved, though faith, not of our selves, it is the gift of God.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877434
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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877437
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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: trapdog1] #7877439
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's interesting that each different church has to rewrite the Bible to fit their ideas.

Sure is.


Been like that even before the bible, the pharaoh's determined what God they worshiped.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877454
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by bblwi
Funny Bible translations, versions etc. only became an issue when the masses became literate. Life was a lot more simple when one lliterate person read something to the masses. I bet there were not many Bible studies arguing the errors of our words back in the middle ages.

Bryce

No they just hung the dissenters


They also burnt a lot of dissenters alive, obviously not following:

KJV
John.13
[34] A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Sadly, today, the people who condemn others, like the Catholics, Jehova Witnesses and Mormons, don't follow this commandment of Jesus and lack the insight and humility of Jesus to be ashamed and repent. People warp the Word to justify their hate of people they have been commanded to love.

Keith

Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877459
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No hate, but following scripture.

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. - Ephesians 5:11 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians5:11&version=NIV

Both mormons and jehovahs witnesses, along with many other heretical sects, both deny the one fundamental tenet of the Christian faith. The divinity of Christ as part of the Triune God head.

We love these sinful misguided people as much as any other but we cannot honor sin in any form.


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You cannot love a sinner into heaven if the sin is not addressed.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877476
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Originally Posted by warrior
You cannot love a sinner into heaven if the sin is not addressed.


You are right Worrior, just like Roman's 12 says, ( if thy enemy hunger feed him if he thirst give him to drink) as spoken referring to those trying to bring christions back to the law of Moses in Roman's Ch 11: 28( as concerning the gospel, thy are enemies for thy sake) the heaping coals of fire being a purification, like refining gold or baptism by fire.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877485
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Originally Posted by warrior
No hate, but following scripture.

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. - Ephesians 5:11 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians5:11&version=NIV

Both mormons and jehovahs witnesses, along with many other heretical sects, both deny the one fundamental tenet of the Christian faith. The divinity of Christ as part of the Triune God head.

We love these sinful misguided people as much as any other but we cannot honor sin in any form.


How can you possibly believe that Jesus saying:

Bible, King James Version
Matt.22 Verses 34 to 40

[34] But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

is supplanted by Paul's Letter to the Ephesians? Is Paul your savior or Jesus?

Unharden your heart.

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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877491
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I reckon folks can believe whatever they want when it comes to religion. As long as you harm no one else it's all good.

Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: Giant Sage] #7877507
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Waggler,
The Morman church has not changed the text of the kjv. They have however added foot notes and commentaries to the kjv to as you said fit there theology. Realy no different than most any bible with commentary. Such as Scofields reference bible that peaple teach and refer to as being dogmatic in some cases. I'm not a fan of any sort of comintary in the bible. I believe the Holy Spirit is the teacher and weather it be kjv or niv ect, if you're part of the body of Christ, redeemed, saved,or born again. Just to be clear then the translation is not your redemption. Only buy grace are ye saved, though faith, not of our selves, it is the gift of God.

This is correct.


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Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877510
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So, when did disagreement become hatred?

Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: warrior] #7877512
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Originally Posted by BandB
So, when did disagreement become hatred?


Obviously not all disagreement is hatred, but look at the level of disagreement poured out on Trapperman by some of these so called "Christians", who are not Christ like and how can you call it anything but hatred. When you call for stoning and the extermination of people of different beliefs, that surely is not "loving your neighbor as yourself", as commanded by Jesus Christ.

Keith

Re: KJV deemed pornographic in Utah [Re: hippie] #7877514
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My question would be, what version will they ban next? Its a slippery slope.

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