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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891245
06/23/23 12:34 PM
06/23/23 12:34 PM
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Midland, MI.
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I explained my process in several videos but I can’t remember if I did in the majority. Here is my testing process- Once you’ve decided on a test location I make the test site itself by drilling a 1” diameter hole 8” deep straight down and I don’t remove any dirt, just down & out. I use a dinner knife as the applicator and stick close to 3/4 of a tsp down the hole as far as the knife will reach.. I do the same thing with baits except I use about 1/2 Tb down the hole.[/quote]

I’ve found that it’s extremely important not to make any changes to whatever your process is, you want all aspects of each test as identical as possible. The reduction of variables is of most importance! I’m not making a trap set, I’m testing the attractiveness of a scent so I don’t want ANY VISUAL variables that can & will skew the results. I don’t brush out my tracks, I choose a site for the hole, walk directly to it, do my thing, and walk away which does not mean that I necessarily walk by, that has to do with the direction I’m going to next. I don’t wear special footwear but I do use gloves.

I have several times tested as many as 3 lures at one location and made the holes about 10’ apart.


"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: Seldom] #7891253
06/23/23 12:41 PM
06/23/23 12:41 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted by Seldom
I explained my process in several videos but I can’t remember if I did in the majority. Here is my testing process- Once you’ve decided on a test location I make the test site itself by drilling a 1” diameter hole 8” deep straight down and I don’t remove any dirt, just down & out. I use a dinner knife as the applicator and stick close to 3/4 of a tsp down the hole as far as the knife will reach.. I do the same thing with baits except I use about 1/2 Tb down the hole.

I’ve found that it’s extremely important not to make any changes to whatever your process is, you want all aspects of each test as identical as possible. The reduction of variables is of most importance! I’m not making a trap set, I’m testing the attractiveness of a scent so I don’t want ANY VISUAL variables that can & will skew the results. I don’t brush out my tracks, I choose a site for the hole, walk directly to it, do my thing, and walk away which does not mean that I necessarily walk by, that has to do with the direction I’m going to next. I don’t wear special footwear but I do use gloves.

I have several times tested as many as 3 lures at one location and made the holes about 10’ apart.


Thank you very much.

Last edited by HoosierTrapper07; 06/23/23 12:41 PM.
Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891328
06/23/23 03:01 PM
06/23/23 03:01 PM
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Posts: 7,077
Northern Mn
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To comment on yes sir,I don't use all these lures in the same year.It's what the coyotes like here in northern Mn,each year I normally run 6-8 lures and don't use year after year.I believe you can burn out a good lure using it too often,that's my opinion ,just like I think biden is the devil him self and wish him all that he deserves burn in h--- you worthless @#$$@#$#%.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891331
06/23/23 03:09 PM
06/23/23 03:09 PM
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Peoria County Illinois
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O'Gorman's lures always did well for me here. All the other farm boys used Hawbaker's because their dad's did. I think the coyotes here never smelled O'Gorman's until I used it so I did real well with it. LDC, Plenty Coyotes, Big Horns Medicine- they really dig for this one.
I have been trying some from Wayne Derrick the last few years. G-Man and 1080. I tried 1080 on some pipe dream sets and it worked well for that. I asked Wayne what it smelled like '' Dead Stuff'' was his answer. It does.
Carman Triple Threat is an awesome late coon lure for dirtholes.
June's Fox Frenzy works well here for Fox and Coyotes.
Ed Schnieder X-Factor great lure too

I have not have very many that do not work but after a couple years it pays to switch. Don't tell the others guys what you are switching to either. I find there is a lack of interest if I stick to the same lure year after year. It also pays to use a lure holder and take your lure away at the end of the season so they aren't smelling it all next spring. I used to use those old metal band aid boxes with holes poked in the lid. Now I use a small jelly jar or Altiod mint box. This way it doesn't get all over your set. And it keeps the smell where you want it. When I leave the area I take this with me the best I can. I don't do this with gland lure- only things like Big Horns Medicine or Triple Threat.


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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891403
06/23/23 04:49 PM
06/23/23 04:49 PM
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Posts: 7,077
Northern Mn
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yes sir that's great if you have good lure's ,your not allowd to promote your self on here.I hope it works out for you,but rules are rules.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891430
06/23/23 05:35 PM
06/23/23 05:35 PM
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Marion Kansas
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Rick since your in a helpful mood could you point what I said that you think is breaking any rules. Im pretty simple but I dont see me saying I've sent lure out for testing or saying I may start selling lures as breaking the rules. Heck Bob post pics of his products regularly and Paul talks about his business. I see it mostly in same light as my posts, just some information and background to help others. If it's mostly just cause I disagreed with you or you don't like me just pm me. I'm a big boy I can handle it.

Is there a opening for a moderator position I missed.

I'd even pm u my phone number if you want to discuss and compare our findings. I love talking coyotes and lures and baits. Maybe coordinate identical tests at the same time and compare notes?

Paul if u feel the same way as Rick just pm

Last edited by Yes sir; 06/23/23 05:37 PM.
Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891470
06/23/23 06:45 PM
06/23/23 06:45 PM
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Yes sir, when you decide to sell, shoot me a PM. I’m narrowing my selection down yearly. I used to carry a bag full, now I’m down to the lures that work.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: Wanna Be] #7891485
06/23/23 07:14 PM
06/23/23 07:14 PM
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Southeast Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Yes sir, when you decide to sell, shoot me a PM. I’m narrowing my selection down yearly. I used to carry a bag full, now I’m down to the lures that work.

WB ,I am with you. I am willing to try some out on in my area.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891491
06/23/23 07:24 PM
06/23/23 07:24 PM
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Posts: 1,225
Midland, MI.
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You two fellas would be making a good choice and sound investment IMHO!


"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891497
06/23/23 07:32 PM
06/23/23 07:32 PM
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Indiana
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@Yes sir and @Seldom when you're running cameras, what models are you running? I have 2 Browning BTC-8A that I like, but they're about impossible to find.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: HoosierTrapper07] #7891505
06/23/23 07:42 PM
06/23/23 07:42 PM
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Midland, MI.
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Originally Posted by HoosierTrapper07
@Yes sir and @Seldom when you're running cameras, what models are you running? I have 2 Browning BTC-8A that I like, but they're about impossible to find.

That is exactly the camera I ran!


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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891620
06/23/23 10:03 PM
06/23/23 10:03 PM
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Marion Kansas
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I believe it's a newer version than what u guys have. I got 4 and was pretty happy with them but still felt they were missing some of the coyotes. This late winter I hung one over some gland stuff I was testing and by the sign, which was stuff I should have seen on camera such as digging and kick backs,I felt like it missed more than half the action. Which gets me frustrated pretty easy. I've seen them miss deer once in awhile while I'm on the stand. Haven't determined if it just one of the cameras or all of them. I need to pay closer attention to which one I'm using and where.

I'll say I still do 90% of my testing off camera for several reasons. Shear number of test sets and convenience are the biggest two. Everything down a dirthole and I judge it by the amount of digging I get. Enough sets and I feel comfortable in my interpretation of their reaction and probably 90% of my testing is comparative testing side by side so I'm just seeing which is better.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891834
06/24/23 08:21 AM
06/24/23 08:21 AM
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Minnesota
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When it come to lures for yotes cavens gusto is my go to

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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: MNTrapper21] #7891924
06/24/23 10:38 AM
06/24/23 10:38 AM
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Tipton, In.
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I love the info in this post. Mainly how guys are testing I find that really interesting, I do not have a high population in my area and catching 25-30 in a season is what I consider a really good season. I get to do some out of state trapping this year for about 10 days in Kentucky on a hunting lease and am really excited to see if I can be successful in another state using my same sets and lures. I really enjoy that everyone has their own findings to add based on what they see in their testing.

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