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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
#7902868
07/10/23 11:13 AM
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PA
PAskinner
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I've caught a lot of fur with shredded leaves over the trap. It only freezes if you get a hard rain and then freeze but everything needs remade then anyway. Same with grass clippings.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: warrior]
#7903090
07/10/23 06:41 PM
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Joined: Feb 2015
alabama
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What is this freezing that you speak of?
Is not a = Southern Thing !! LoL !
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7903109
07/10/23 07:15 PM
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alabama
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We don’t have freeze, but when that clay hardens and you’ll need a chisel to get them out during the Summer. Waxed sand. I tried it in = Sandy Red Clay. It worked. MJ 600 s fired everytime. Just labor intensive
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: Seldom]
#7903125
07/10/23 07:49 PM
07/10/23 07:49 PM
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Pennsylvania
patrapper1989
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An 1”-11/2” over-night rainfall and dropping into the low-mid 20’s is quite common here in Nov/Dec. I have NEVER had a waxed sand bedded trap freeze! I did one time not be quite careful enough and left a shallow dish over the trap which turned into a ice puck that i had to pick off. I also made a mistake early in my waxed sand use make a set on a slope and it rained as I described. Water running over my set washed off all the waxed sand covering and it wound-up few inches down-slope of my trap.
What ratio do you use? I've made some last year to test and I'm happy with it just wondering what others use to minimize wax usage. Only downside is you better be trapping out of a truck or ATV, heavy as heck!
Last edited by patrapper1989; 07/10/23 07:50 PM.
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: patrapper1989]
#7903131
07/10/23 07:59 PM
07/10/23 07:59 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Seldom
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An 1”-11/2” over-night rainfall and dropping into the low-mid 20’s is quite common here in Nov/Dec. I have NEVER had a waxed sand bedded trap freeze! I did one time not be quite careful enough and left a shallow dish over the trap which turned into a ice puck that i had to pick off. I also made a mistake early in my waxed sand use make a set on a slope and it rained as I described. Water running over my set washed off all the waxed sand covering and it wound-up few inches down-slope of my trap.
What ratio do you use? I've made some last year to test and I'm happy with it just wondering what others use to minimize wax usage. Only downside is you better be trapping out of a truck or ATV, heavy as heck! I’m sorry but I never weighed my wax, I just used a particular scoop and kept adding until I got the “color” right and when I squeezed a handful of either the cooled waxed sand or waxed dirt it would clump together just right to me. Even without clumping a little the waxed sand would pass the water test but I wanted a little more compactness. After that it was just repetitious. My system is shown on my Youtube channel and I think I even showed the amount of wax in my scoop for 25# of sand. BTW, yes, any amount of waxed sand is heavy. I used 2 gal HDPH wide-mouth jugs to haul mine in my atv. They were extremely handy carrying from the quad to the set and back. One jug of waxed dirt weighs 17#. But waxed sand is heavier!
Last edited by Seldom; 07/10/23 08:04 PM.
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
#7903183
07/10/23 08:51 PM
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Louisville, Nebraska
jabNE
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Louisville, Nebraska
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Waxed dirt or sand here. The dirt blends better for me with our local soils. I have tried just about everything else in 40 or so years of coyote trapping and in dead winter here it’s the ONLY thing that works for me. I’ve literally tried dried peat, dirt with calcium or other freeze proofed sprays and mixed or added, coal shale, cocoa bean hull and coffee bean hull mulches, dried grass clippings, buckwheat hulls, and the list goes on and on and on. Every one of those will frost over and form a crust after a night or two then will not let a pan drop and they get stepped on by all kinds of critters visiting sets. Got absolutely sick of fighting it. First three seasons using waxed dirt or sand here through freeze/thaw, light snow melting, freezing rain, etc. in December and January, I was sold on it. It’s the only thing that keeps me consistently catching coyotes and not wasting my time redoing sets and resetting every trap on my line in process. The other stuff is fine in November here but later on it has to be waxed dirt or sand and I don’t skimp on the wax either. Jim
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
#7903210
07/10/23 09:40 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Montana
beartooth trapr
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Montana
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Waxed Sand, sorry I'm hooked on it . 2 days and I got all I need, 3rd day got enough to pay back my helper. 4th day got some more I can sell. Don't do a 4th day anymore. 
Let me sugar coat this
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Re: If you don’t use wax dirt.
[Re: bearcat2]
#7903256
07/10/23 11:00 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Seldom
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Midland, MI.
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Just be sure not to skimp on the waxed stuff, make sure and dig your trap bed big enough so no part of the trap touches native soil. I've had jaws freeze down when I was being conservative and never put enough waxed dirt between them and native soil. . This is the key to never having a frozen trap or trap bed!
Last edited by Seldom; 07/10/23 11:02 PM.
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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