We hire Monthly. Usually about 20 at a time. Only about 1/3 rd make the cut. But it is Coal Mining and most cannot handle the Confinement. Working in 26 to 33 inch spaces and they just cannot do it. The ones that are kept are hard workers.

I would like nothing better than to be able to work from home. I guess I don't want to work? Never would have thought that since I have averaged 72.6 hrs a week this year so far at my off farm job and what little time I'm not at my primary job I spend the majority working on something at my farm. I have got to say I never knew I was lazy working around 100 hrs a week. I would rather it all be at home on the farm but the farm doesn't have affordable health insurance, pension, or 401k. But if I were at home more the farm would generate more income just not enough to match my pay or enough to buy the same benefits. If it were even half I would be happy to work from home and what I'm working twords. One thing is for sure I would save 10k right off the top in fuel, food, vehicle expenses not to mention many hours of time.


Edit to Change hours averaged per week. It's droped some since I have been trying to get caught up on the farm and it's been fair preparation and fair week. Should drop more as vacation and hunting season start kicking off. Honestly I'm getting burnt out.

Prov what do you do ?

Work in a aluminum factory. Currently a heavy equipment operator but in the last 17 years I have had several positions in the plant. Equipment wise I run everything from 55 ton overhead Crain's and 938 series cat loaders down to 8klb fork lifts and everything in between. Unfortunately like construction it can't be done from home lol.

I used to be a union Ironworker 7years and I also have been a line clearance tree trimmer but that seems like a lifetime ago.

good deal

I am not sure when I had the time to commute , ok I remember I would leave the house at 05:45 and return at 18:45 eat something sleep and do it again.

we used to call Thursday Sandwich night , because a sandwich was all the energy we had left by Thursday night.

45 and been working from home mostly for 16 years I have a desk at the office and pre covid I visited it once a week now it is more like once a quarter.

now things I did at the office that were actually at the office were next to nothing , maybe shipping a part once in a while.

I spend my days on conference calls , answering email and working on equipment remotely and always have , conference calls got better now it is a mix of Teams , Zoom, Go-to-meeting , and a few other meeting apps.

many of my customers no longer even have an office , 100% virtual work spaces

these are obviously not factory , retail , or construction jobs

if you want to work from home , you have to have skills valuable to things you can do from home.

cause having your own coffee pot in the next room , with your coffee and not the vending machine coffee sure is nice

I always worked overnight work , I get even more work done and overtime in than I did before.
it adds a lot of flexibility for my employer also , if someone calls in sick they can call me and I can be logged in and working in 10 minutes taking on what ever their shift or calls were.

I work sick a lot more often been sitting on a maxed out sick time for more than 10 years I have to be about dead to not log in and get my work done.
missed a whole 3 day when I had covid those days I couldn't even talk and slept all day.

I don't agree with the leadership opinion. I have running ads that have been out for 3 years. Every once in a while someone answers one of them and they make an appointment for an interview. 80% never show up. Of the 20% that do show up 100% of them have bene hired on the spot for the last 18 months weather I thought they could do the work or not just so my guys would have help. Of those hired fully 50% never show up for their first day of work. 20% never show up the second day. None have made it for over 4 months. I have other long time employees who work for me. We just need help. 4 competitors closed in the last 3 years. There's a lot of work to be done. So much so that I am turning customers away. All of us have second jobs too. I farm plus run the business. So does my manager. I just want a normal employee who does not have an agenda, is drunk or high all day, wears fury gloves and licks the back of his hand, poops in peoples garages, likes to bathe, and does not smoke weed all day and all night or sell drugs out of my trucks. Maybe I'm asking too much? And yes all of that is what I have been putting up with in one shape or form. Had a guy Monday tell me he could make it to work because his car got shot 25 times. He's a good worker when he's here. A lot of these people cannot be ''lead'' traditionally. Things have been drilled into their brains since they were kids here. They want the money but they don't know how to work for it. All I ever ask is for a person to work steady at something like they are doing something for them selves. If they are tired take a break. It's not a hard job. I also work alongside them so I see the 4 or 5 bathroom tris an hour and the drink breaks or smoke breaks but I don't care. I just need people and this is where I'm at. I worked from home after work yesterday. I cut hay till it was too dark and wet to do it. Same thing tonight and baling Friday and Saturday. I don't have hep for that either. I have a square baler so I bale about 10 bales and let the baler push then onto the rack then I go stack them. As the rack gets fuller less bales and more stops. Where are all of the kids these days? They don't want to do farm work. They can't do it because they don't grow strong sitting playing video games all day and night. Then they are too tired to work from anywhere. Sorry for the rant again.

Waiting for someone to bring up quiet quitting

Yup,

It's definitely you !!!!!!

w

from the young peoples perspective , they don't see and haven't seen any company loyalties to an employee in a long time

way to many companies treat a person like a placeholder a warm body , rather than the right person in the right job.

they watch their parent get laid off in 2002 , 2006-2010

many places doing more work doesn't equal more pay

they don't ever expect to retire , they don't ever expect to see SS

they are living for today because the future just looks like a Poop Show

there are good young workers with good work ethic , nothing beats them down faster than employers who only take advantage of that and don't reward it at all. if you never get paid for more for doing well , why would you want to put in the extra effort.

so it is an interesting conundrum

employees that see no future and are working day to day
and
employers who want to pay what they paid 6 years ago in a totally different job market before 35% inflation.

and it isn't just young people getting fed up with it
my wife is fed up with it , she is now doing 2 1/2 peoples jobs as people leave she gets assigned their duties and HR seems to be making almost ne effort to hire anyone to fill those roles and at the same time nothing is being done to pay her any more.
some of these roles she took on were people who retired , they had months of notice that they were leaving , begged them to stay longer the retirement was delayed because they were supposed to be trying to fill that position and let the retiree train the new person , but nothing.

I think they see the work still getting mostly done, they are saving 1 1/2 salaries and that makes the bottom line look better
at 45 my wife is the youngest person in that office so the company is slowly choking themselves to death

there are good employers and good employees but way to many companies made the bed and don't want to sleep in it , and point the blame at the young when they are very much to blame for what has become.

A good percentage of the population has been spoiled into uselessness by their parents, liberal education and the government. They want, and think they deserve, everything right now, with no effort expended on their part.

Absolutely spot on with this analysis !!!

w

Hmmmmm. I just got a text from one of guys saying he won't be in because he cannot get a sitter. It's after 12:30 pm- he was supposed to be here at 8am...... So now I'm a doormat?

My guys get heir own truck, their own retirement account and I pay more so they can buy their own insurance. But - here's the problem.... I expect the job to get done.

I'm tired of doing the work of 3 people too but that's my job. And I just got a $2 tip for being nice to an guy.

You know the young people don't have to put up with ''the poop show''. They can change their attitudes. Life is what you make it. Being a ''Debbie downer'' doesn't do anyone any good.

Wolfdog; yeah I've been quiet quit on too. One guy recently never came back to work after the weekend. I called twice and he never answered and had no voice mail set up so I could not leave a message, 6 week after he never came back or called he wrote me a letter about how my business was going to fail and how he didn't like the other guys because they criticized him. He forgot his sunglasses and he accused me of steeling them and keeping his last check and he was going to sue me for it and report me to the police. I mailed his check to his address. It came back stamped '' no such address''. Good thing I had asked him for emergency contact information; I called his mother and sent it to her after she said she would give it to him.

Really. Grown man - and Mom's got your back? Maybe. I could hire Mom?

Quiet quitting is the new term when people don't go "above" and beyond for a job.yiu don't do less but don't do more then what your being paid for. Ie I get paid $12hr to run a machine from 12p.m to 5p.m I'm going to run that machine for that time do a good job but that's it I less I'm getting paid extra. No if ands or buts. Usually quit and move on to something else after two years. Supposed to be derogatory but just common sense now days for most jobs imo

Yup! Because most companies will let you do the job of two or three people and not compensate you. We are just a cog in their machine.

So, you do your job and that is it.

Sounds like common sense when there isn’t any benefit to going above and beyond. I don’t blame them.

I took it to mean he didn't want someone to steal the kid away!

A lot of companies are paying better and giving better benefits in order to attract and keep better employees. When I started with my company 21 years ago you started at a pretty low wage and had to be there a year to get any vacation. Now new people are paid much better, get great benefits and a week of vacation after six months. We even have recruiters to negotiate those terms if they deem you worth it. No more take it or leave it!
About every business in every industry and retail is looking for help. In today's job market, if you're unhappy in a dead end job it's your own fault.