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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912542
07/24/23 10:53 PM
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Gunpowder, printing press, paper, and magnetic compass all invented by middle eastern and asian countries. Not bad .Wonder what they could have done if they were drinkers instead?

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: rex123] #7912599
07/25/23 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rex123
Gunpowder, printing press, paper, and magnetic compass all invented by middle eastern and asian countries. Not bad .Wonder what they could have done if they were drinkers instead?

Thats just it,they didnt do anything with it.


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: charles] #7912613
07/25/23 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
Just returned from a vacation with four young grandkids. We started in San Francisco and ended in Seattle. Saw lots of drug abuse right on the public sidewalks. Saw naked people, and all forms of “wiped out” drug users. It is a one way street that takes you downhill.

Not a fan of abusive drugs.


Then you took the wrong vacation. Did you go to Portland also?


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912628
07/25/23 05:48 AM
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First off. thats a Fuax News article. (Controlled opposition)

Second. The doctors quoted Sabet" a former white house drug policy advisor to Bush, Obama and Clinton." So, you know he is full it.

I would guess any increase in mental health problems are due to the covid lockdowns or the fentanyl crisis combined with alcohol abuse. I never see a problem with a cannabis smoker going crazy but its common with alcohol users and strangely excepted.

I think alot of the reefer madness is due to some folks get really high when they smoked a joint in high school and never forgot it and feared it ever since. And now think its the devil.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912635
07/25/23 06:03 AM
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I could see a correlation between pot smoking and schizophrenia. Some folks get awful paranoid when they smoke the Devil's lettuce. I suppose those with a predisposition for the disease could further increase their odds of suffering from it with the daily use of reefer.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912918
07/25/23 04:16 PM
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Certainly has been a big leap in stupidity on the nations roads!


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #7912943
07/25/23 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Story bought & paid for by the tobacco and alcohol industries....Marijuana (actual grass) used to be 2-4% THC...That's back when you smoked the whole joint for the desired effect.

Now it's 16-30+ % THC, so 1-4 hits....It's all the same, smoke less strong weed, or much more weak weed to get to the same place.

Not advocating for it's recreational use, but this story is BS.


Well said.


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Blaine County] #7912944
07/25/23 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Some of y'all are still mad that nobody would sell you a bag. Narc vibe.

Alcohol is the 4th leading cause of preventable death in the US. Not to mention traffic deaths, assaults, murders and suicides.

And alcohol is legal in every state, pot isn't. More and more states are legalizing it, give it time to catch up to alcohol.


The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Trapper7] #7912952
07/25/23 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Some of y'all are still mad that nobody would sell you a bag. Narc vibe.

Alcohol is the 4th leading cause of preventable death in the US. Not to mention traffic deaths, assaults, murders and suicides.

And alcohol is legal in every state, pot isn't. More and more states are legalizing it, give it time to catch up to alcohol.


Alcohol got worse when prohibited and gave rise to the mob. Being illegal drives up prices and created a black market. Being illegal is stoping no one from geting or smoking pot. It just keeps it less in the open..
It does give the government more power. Lots of people like freedom untill t h ey see someone else enjoying that freedom when it something they don't approve of.

I smoked pot a few times over 25 years ago. It was not for me but it also is not near as bad for society as alcohol.
Editable were a great thing for my 60plus year old mom when she was going through radiation and chemo. But many want to deny people that or think a government permission slip should be required. Many of those same people wrap up in the flag and scream freedom when it comes to speech or guns. There is a major disconnect.

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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912953
07/25/23 05:20 PM
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Pot smoking is a gateway drug for some. I know because I have a son who told me after a time, he couldn't get high enough on pot and moved onto something where he could. He has been in drug treatment several times, but he always goes back to pot and something else later. We went into the in house program at the request of the counselor as support for him. There were others in the program that said they started out with pot just like him and ended up on cocaine, heroin, etc.

To minimize pot as some on here do, is like saying it's not any worse than smoking a cigarette. Which is ridiculous.


The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Trapper7] #7912957
07/25/23 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Pot smoking is a gateway drug for some. I know because I have a son who told me after a time, he couldn't get high enough on pot and moved onto something where he could. He has been in drug treatment several times, but he always goes back to pot and something else later. We went into the in house program at the request of the counselor as support for him. There were others in the program that said they started out with pot just like him and ended up on cocaine, heroin, etc.

To minimize pot as some on here do, is like saying it's not any worse than smoking a cigarette. Which is ridiculous.


I bet he started out sneaking a beer or bottle of whiskey. Probably cigarettes also maybe cigarettes are the gateway drug?

Some people can't handle having a drink, other over eat, some don't know when enough is enough or moderation. I have addicts in my family. But like a shooting it's the shooter not the gun.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912958
07/25/23 05:27 PM
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My son started on pot and overdosed and died on coke. Yea pots safe.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912966
07/25/23 05:47 PM
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I've never understood the pot smokers constantly saying, "But what about alcohol? ".

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7912990
07/25/23 06:56 PM
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Pot is safe. Has many health benefits. Coke is not safe. Dont do coke. No brainer.

Alcohol is not safe. We like to point out the hypocrisy.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: yukonjeff] #7912996
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Pot is safe. Has many health benefits. Coke is not safe. Dont do coke. No brainer.

Alcohol is not safe. We like to point out the hypocrisy.



Sums it up and I'm not a pot user and have no interest in it.

Everyone claims that their loved one started on pot but if they look back I bet they started on alcohol and tobacco. But those are safe and not to blame it was Definitely the pot got them started.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: yukonjeff] #7913059
07/25/23 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Pot is safe. Has many health benefits.

Same as alcohol.One or two glasses of red wine per day has many proven health benefits.Drinking a gallon a day,,not so healthy.Neither is smoking 30 bowls of pot a day.


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Providence Farm] #7913143
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm

many want to deny people that or think a government permission slip should be required. Many of those same people wrap up in the flag and scream freedom when it comes to speech or guns. There is a major disconnect.


So anarchy then?

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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913152
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by Providence Farm

many want to deny people that or think a government permission slip should be required. Many of those same people wrap up in the flag and scream freedom when it comes to speech or guns. There is a major disconnect.


So anarchy then?



When the government can tell you what you can and can not put in your own body that's not freedom. You can't protect people and freedom means the freedom to make bad choices and fail. The catch is there should be no safety net.

It has a lot of spill over. A few example are I can't sell you a quart of raw goat milk. The same as I feed my family but the government says I can't sell it to you. I can't sell you beef or pork I Raise and butchered myself. But I can sell up to 20k chickens I butcher if I sell them whole and direct to customers. Now I can't piece them out or if I sell 20k and 1. Ot to a store or restaurant I could get into trouble. What's the difference can you tell me?
Who has the publics best interests in mind me with limited customer base selling products I raised and right out of the same freezer my family's food come out of or the illegal immigrants working in the inspected slaughter houses?
. I can sell baked goods made at home but only if I put a sticker that says it was not made in an inspected kitchen. I can sell honey direct but not to retail or wholesale if not harvested in an inspected kitchen.

Freedom is scary and also can be dangerous. Often I warn my kids of dangers and then set back and watch them decide to do things I told them not to and the dangers of why as long as it won't kill or permanently damage them. Then when they get hurt they get asked, didn't I tell you not to do that and what could happen, "yes" did you do it any way"yes" and that's what you get. They get no sympathy it's a learning experience and teachable moment. Many of Societies problems wouldn't not be problems if kids were still getting skinned knees and the occasional broken bone and parents letting kids be kids learning by experience.

A lot of people have issues with drug use. Drugs are neither good or bad and can be both. The problem is the people's inability to make good decisions and have self control. It's easier to blame the drugs instead of the people making the bad choice. Just exactly how anti gunners try to blame the gun not the person pulling the trigger

Instead they want to wrap them in bubble wrap. And tell them how special they are. My kids are no better or more special than any other kids. I'm also nothing special or deserving of special treatment. No one is we are all equal and God's children



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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913156
07/25/23 10:17 PM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913220
07/26/23 02:42 AM
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I doubt the mental Illness is caused by weed. Some of the smartest people I know smoke weed. Mental Illness ia more likely caused by the new anything goes outlook of most people now days.


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