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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913419
07/26/23 11:39 AM
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Never mind PF. I just advise you not to enter the mission field of rehabilitating addicts.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: rex123] #7913423
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Originally Posted by rex123
I am trying to understand something you are destroying the temple of God if you use pot but it's okay to flood it with booze? Sorry folks but it kind of seems a little backwards.


The same could be said for eating junk food, drinking soft drinks and not getting any exercise. We should probably limit calories, type of food,and mandatory physical training daily. After all look at all the life's destroyed by heart attacks, obesity, diabetes, and the cost the the health care system.
O wait new York was limiting soda sizes.
Sounds kind of communist when put like that now doesn't it.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: rex123] #7913424
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Originally Posted by rex123
I am trying to understand something you are destroying the temple of God if you use pot but it's okay to flood it with booze? Sorry folks but it kind of seems a little backwards.

I guess I didn't see where someone was advocating drunkenness, I've only seen comparing pot to alcohol in an attempt to legitimize it. Both weed and wine are intoxicating with the only difference being you can drink a glass of wine and not get intoxicated but can't do the same when smoking a joint.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913430
07/26/23 11:50 AM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913436
07/26/23 11:55 AM
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Which of the anti-marijuana people have actual personal experience trying it?

I ask because I it appears many of you think it is more intoxicating than it actually is. It's not crack. It's not meth.

You can eat an edible or take a few tokes and not be messed up. Doing so would be the equivalent of a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine.

Again, I haven't had any in many years and don't drink anymore. I look however look forward to resuming reasonable cannabis consumption in retirement. I'll never pick up the bottle again.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913437
07/26/23 11:55 AM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: ] #7913442
07/26/23 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Never mind PF. I just advise you not to enter the mission field of rehabilitating addicts.



Never planed on it. I don't have the temperament or ability/ lack of reason to blame someone's poor choices and lack of self control on a drug any more than I blame a shooting on the gun. I don’t have empathy for people that put things befor their family and friends and won't play into the delusional mind set it's the drugs fault not the persons choices. O it's not your fault you can't help it would never come out of my mouth. It is exactly no one else's fault and they most definitely can help it but chose to use the drugs. No one put a gun to fheir kids head and said shoot the drug or I will kill your kid. Nope they chose it all on theri own.

Now I believe my tough love aproch is appreciated by my recovery addiction brother in law. It works better Tham pampering and enabling him for years like his parents did. I also get respect from him.

You kind of ignored all the negative consequences the war on drugs created in all my post so am I to assume your ok selling out your kids and grand kids freedom as long as it alines with your ideas and like putting a boot on their neck. Can't come up with a single positive thing the war on drugs had accomplished or even narrow it down making pot illegal has done instead attempt to take a moral high road and just say never mind.
No facts or info to back up your stance just feelings. Seems familiar where do I see arguments like that?

If you could back up your argument with data reasion and logic not feelings, assumptions, and sound bites you picked up all your life with no base in facts I would lesson. But the case for negative fare out way any positive if you can find any positive to pot being illegal. I sure can't find any logical argument for positive effects.




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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913455
07/26/23 12:25 PM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913458
07/26/23 12:30 PM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913464
07/26/23 12:33 PM
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A week or so ago, a lot of folks were vilifying WI as a state full of drunks, and now a lot of folks want more mind altering stuff legalized, Sheesh. Can't agree on anything.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913465
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I'd hire a pot smoker over 10 drinkers.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913499
07/26/23 12:48 PM
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One of you saints brought up the temple thing but I agree overeating ,living on your phone, and anything else you go overboard with is wrong but really but look at this in the real light of day to say it is worse than drinking is just stupid. Drinking is accepted because of jobs . It goes back to what runs this country Money and a whole lot of people do it. Lets take a look guy beats his wife after drinking well she had it coming old hag anyway, spends the rent money on drink but he works hard and the house wasn't that good anyway, kids are hungry spent the money on drink it's okay kids were to fat anyway. Just trying to point out one is just as bad as the other but some of you are trying to put the pot smoker as the devil no matter what. Why because MOST of us drink something but it is always nice to have someone to look down on. And before you start not talking about hard drugs.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913526
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Well Rex we do have a farmers sub fourm so drinking must be ok. May be a good tile to say I went to my wife's 38 year old aunts funeral on Monday. She will killed when the drunk she was riding with hit a tree. He walked away. I have never heard of a pot head geting stoned and beating his wife and kids. He would be more likely to eat all the kids snacks and chill out. But but he might move on to hard drugs. They say while overlooking thay startes on alcohol and tobacco and moved up to pot but the first two are ok but pot I'd the devil. Yet it's lost on them even when pointed out. The left doesn't have a monopoly on being a blind followers lemming and hypocrites.

ALL I asked for was a logical argument fact based for the criminalization of pot. I layed out several negatives . But I get nothing in return but emotionall ideological stances. I guess they really don't have an strong backed up stance outside it parrot what they have alway been told.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913549
07/26/23 01:18 PM
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Would you offer Jesus a toke if he showed up today? Of course you could assure him it ain't as intoxicating as wine. smile

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913612
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Sorry for your loss. But it sorta goes to what I am saying DRUNK driver killed some one on the news somewhere every night . Joint smoking driver hits tree not so much.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: ] #7913615
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Would you offer Jesus a toke if he showed up today? Of course you could assure him it ain't as intoxicating as wine. smile



Yet another if he is not on my side he must be on the other. And absolutely nothing to add to the argument. On either side.
Must be a reading comprehension issue. smile

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913616
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Providence Farm] #7913685
07/26/23 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
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Would you offer Jesus a toke if he showed up today? Of course you could assure him it ain't as intoxicating as wine. smile



Yet another if he is not on my side he must be on the other. And absolutely nothing to add to the argument. On either side.
Must be a reading comprehension issue. smile

So would you? If Jesus showed up and you were given the choice to offer either Jesus a joint or a glass of wine, which would it be?

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913728
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I wouldn't have either on hand. I would have serious questions like where is my son and this not being married to my wife when I'm in heaven. If all the roads are gold and no dirt or gravel I don't have my wife or kids I'm not sure it's i a place I care to be or want to go. But that's me coming from an earthly view point.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7913754
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Maybe Jesus would like both?

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