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Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: ks wolfer] #7901421
07/07/23 09:54 PM
07/07/23 09:54 PM
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alabama
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Grasshopper based lure ? That has been on my mind lately. Have seen it in the past in = Coyote poop. Have seen dogs ware out some grass hoppers. BUT. In a = bumper crop of grasshoppers. Will it work well on coyotes? OR is it better when grasshopper is fewer ?

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7901457
07/07/23 10:30 PM
07/07/23 10:30 PM
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Marion Kansas
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Test St.... test grin

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: steeltraps] #7901463
07/07/23 10:38 PM
07/07/23 10:38 PM
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Montana
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Wanna Be. Landowners with cameras can be a great thing OR a terrible thing ! I had a highfence job once. 700 acres. Landowner had 30 cameras up. SWORE he had 20 plus coyotes inside the high fence. I told him = No dont. Ive looked. But he insisted. So me and his biologist Plugged = With Wire and rock. The ONLY crawl under on the place. I trapped 10 days got 7 coyotes. O pics on ANY game cam. Biologist = him = nor I could find a single track on place. Instead of saying he was wrong. He insisted = some how. The other 13 coyotes must have left. Maybe they climbed out over the 10 ft fence? This is why I NEVER,EVER Want to trap for small high fence in the south EVER again! Texas. Is the place for me

He was setting the price you charge him laugh 20


Let me sugar coat this
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: Yes sir] #7901471
07/07/23 10:53 PM
07/07/23 10:53 PM
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alabama
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Test St.... test grin

I wish I had the time to test. Running 3 ranches now. Work from 630 am till 8 pm most day. But starting to catch up. Maybe 1 day. I have afew good camera’s that are expensive = real time ? Dont know if i can work them. But at 50. I have learned. Anything is possible lol !

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: beartooth trapr] #7901474
07/07/23 10:55 PM
07/07/23 10:55 PM
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alabama
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
Originally Posted by steeltraps
Wanna Be. Landowners with cameras can be a great thing OR a terrible thing ! I had a highfence job once. 700 acres. Landowner had 30 cameras up. SWORE he had 20 plus coyotes inside the high fence. I told him = No dont. Ive looked. But he insisted. So me and his biologist Plugged = With Wire and rock. The ONLY crawl under on the place. I trapped 10 days got 7 coyotes. O pics on ANY game cam. Biologist = him = nor I could find a single track on place. Instead of saying he was wrong. He insisted = some how. The other 13 coyotes must have left. Maybe they climbed out over the 10 ft fence? This is why I NEVER,EVER Want to trap for small high fence in the south EVER again! Texas. Is the place for me

He was setting the price you charge him laugh 20

Back then. I got 300 a day. No matter what ! Now. I do a monthly rate. And we run multiple ranches. So it all evens out ! LoL !

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: steeltraps] #7901475
07/07/23 10:58 PM
07/07/23 10:58 PM
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alabama
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I have. In some notes. Somewhere. A. 1930 or so recipe for Horse Hoof trimmings. Sometime about = the frog??? Dont know exactly what that means. BUT do remember = Reading the part that says = Something about the = Frog whatever that means or relates to

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7901523
07/08/23 12:57 AM
07/08/23 12:57 AM
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The frog and the sole are the hot items, not really the actual hoof wall.

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7901525
07/08/23 01:00 AM
07/08/23 01:00 AM
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I’ve thought about grasshopper based bait.

It’s a mainstay here in late summer. But grasshoppers are eaten out of convenience. They’re fricken everywhere and easy.

I still have to think given the choice between grasshopper and red meat, the meats gonna win and a coyote that’s been on hoppers for a while is gonna jump at the chance for some real meat.

Last edited by Boone Liane; 07/08/23 01:02 AM.
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: Boone Liane] #7901603
07/08/23 08:26 AM
07/08/23 08:26 AM
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I have made the horse trim bait----- frog, hoof wall trimmings etc--- did not really boil down just simmered a long time. The worse part about making the grasshopper bait is mashing them up lol I am not a bait or lure hobbyist or serious researcher with cameras--- I was interested in finding some baits that would be less affected by summer heat and would not be a scent/bait that some novice trapper had educated the population that I needed to catch. They worked for the purpose. Would I use them on a long-line or as regular go to , No--- however sometimes circumstances necessitate different tactics. I applaud those that have the skill and spend the time doing the research, I was just using some old lure ideas for something different to catch some that didnt want to be caught. I cant even remember where I came across them, probably in one of my very old books.

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: Boone Liane] #7901788
07/08/23 04:02 PM
07/08/23 04:02 PM
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Nebraska
Originally Posted by Boone Liane
I’ve thought about grasshopper based bait.

It’s a mainstay here in late summer. But grasshoppers are eaten out of convenience. They’re fricken everywhere and easy.

I still have to think given the choice between grasshopper and red meat, the meats gonna win and a coyote that’s been on hoppers for a while is gonna jump at the chance for some real meat.



Boone has it right. They eat out of convenience. It's not something for much nutritional value. I think it was some of Sherm Blom's research I read about referring to insect baits. Really won't hold up to anything with real meat.

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7901820
07/08/23 05:00 PM
07/08/23 05:00 PM
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Wanna have fun?

Bring a small bit of HT juice to a town dog park, pour it out, sit back and enjoy smile


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: bucksnbears] #7901998
07/08/23 10:40 PM
07/08/23 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Wanna have fun?

Bring a small bit of HT juice to a town dog park, pour it out, sit back and enjoy smile

Oh I bet :D, I do it with rotten stuff out by back road.
All the loose roaming town dog's find it an roll every time.


Let me sugar coat this
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: ks wolfer] #7902645
07/09/23 10:53 PM
07/09/23 10:53 PM
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alabama
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Ks Wolfer. I was thinking same thing. I am luck. On 140 sections of sheep I work. Have some GOOD trappers around me. 1 is a top recommend Ogorman’s student. Great USDA guys around. 1 guy is on here. He is bout 30 miles from me. So im luck in a way. BUT what if 1 makes it to me that has seen it all??? I just want something different sometimes. That no 1 else has

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7902838
07/10/23 09:49 AM
07/10/23 09:49 AM
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Deer hoof frog works also.
It's just a change up post lure for me. Or I guess you can call it a call lure because it gets put high up on the post.

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7902843
07/10/23 10:10 AM
07/10/23 10:10 AM
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I've used the frog an made up a good batch it works but the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) stinks like sewage think someone else here said it gotta be careful little drop or something gets anywhere other than hole it's not a good look

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7915475
07/29/23 06:13 AM
07/29/23 06:13 AM
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Allegany State Park in WNY
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Trail cameras and catches have proven to me (at least in my area) that nothing attracts and catches coyotes more than deer liver. Throw in some deer hair and a quality urine and you have about as natural bait as can be found. One lure that I did find particularly effective on canines was Weisers Bob Cat Gland.
A few of many trail cam videos of coyote on deer liver. Some intersting behavior of gorging, burying and urinating/kickback responses.




Last edited by Archeryguy; 07/29/23 08:22 AM.
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7915476
07/29/23 06:16 AM
07/29/23 06:16 AM
Joined: Nov 2011
Allegany State Park in WNY
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Also, bears love the stuff too.
This brute had 2 PA ear tags and had wandered across the border into NY. He was eventually put down after being trapped and relocated several times after he became a nuisance.

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Last edited by Archeryguy; 07/29/23 06:18 AM.
Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7915553
07/29/23 09:02 AM
07/29/23 09:02 AM
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Georgia
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Georgia
Thanks for sharing archery guy!

Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7915963
07/29/23 08:19 PM
07/29/23 08:19 PM
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Midland, MI.
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Midland, MI.
Very nice videos! I have found that deer liver, fresh deer liver isn’t the end-all coyote bait by any means! 2 years ago on this very board deer liver was discussed and my lightbulb came on. Could fresh deer liver be more attractive than the baits I’ve been using? On this one 500 acre deer hunting property the crew had an established gutting area several hundred yards away from their camp. It was in an old log-laydown area with tag alder swamp on 2 sides and open but rough ground on the other 2.

During deer season the guys would swing in and gut their deer and drive out. Pretty simple and tucked away so I figured i’d give this fresh deer liver deal a whirl since I was trapping coyotes on the property. The 1st morning (end-Nov)I’d heard a shot while checking traps so I swung by and sure enough, there was a fresh gut pile! Hey, about as fresh of liver as I could ever imagine so I cut chunks about 2” square and stuffed a couple of pint jars.

For the next week I used those chunks in 1/2 my sets on that property and my other propertys. Zip! NADA! NOTHING! I caught coyotes using my commercial favorite baits but nothing in the fresh liver baited sets!!! Since I’m on all of my coyote trapping properties 9 months of the year (that’s right, I study coyotes every week or two for 9 months of the year) I watched the gut pile area. I NEVER saw a coyote or bobcat track at the gutting area!! Not one track, just lots of trash animals and birds!! Take everything you hear or read with a grain of salt and find out for yourself!!


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Re: Horse hoof trimmings [Re: 159guy] #7918854
08/02/23 01:39 PM
08/02/23 01:39 PM
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Wisconsin
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Loved the videos and information! I can't believe this thread has gotten this long.

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