Re: Trap modification
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08/11/23 12:58 PM
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Not meaning to de-rail this thread, but I bet it hurt like hel* when you smacked that thumb.
Btw...I like that dogless pan on the beaver-sized longspring in the very last pic. Small pan lines that back foot up well.
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Re: Trap modification
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08/11/23 01:05 PM
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Not meaning to de-rail this thread, but I bet it hurt like hel* when you smacked that thumb.
Btw...I like that dogless pan on the beaver-sized longspring in the very last pic. Small pan lines that back foot up well. I have some weird nerve condition in my hands and some other joints in my body and don’t have much feeling in them parts anymore. It felt like a thump when it hit it so if I had full feeling still I would have probably had a lot of choice words and thrown a few things hahahaha! That num5 double long turned out freaking awesome love that trap so much I plan on doing a dozen for myself to use!
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Re: Trap modification
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08/17/23 07:16 AM
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Did you split flat washers? Been thinking of doing that myself. Been told to watch it though, as they tend to grab pretty hard and screw into the ground.
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Re: Trap modification
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08/17/23 07:33 AM
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Did you split flat washers? Been thinking of doing that myself. Been told to watch it though, as they tend to grab pretty hard and screw into the ground. Yeah I just split some washers. I’m f they are spread and gapped properly to elongate the pitch it helps reduce the wanting to just screw into the ground. That’s why I tested it using one hand. Works well for a few pieces of scrap laying around and about 10 minutes of work.
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Re: Trap modification
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08/18/23 11:14 AM
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On the old Mont 2 low levers I cut out the top inside corners of the levers , and ground the outside jaw ramp angles. Makes em hi lever and no need to remove mailable jaws. Also, for the broken jawed ones. Sleepy Creek 175 round jaws are direct fit.
Guys today are lucky with out of the box fit and finish on many models.
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Re: Trap modification
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08/19/23 11:40 AM
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After seeing these, I'm ashamed to post mine! Lol.
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Re: Trap modification
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09/18/23 08:11 AM
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That's one sharp lookin sifter! Surely you are going to have it engraved 'Sniff this Joe" and below that 'Let's go Brandon'
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Re: Trap modification
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09/18/23 08:30 AM
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That's one sharp lookin sifter! Surely you are going to have it engraved 'Sniff this Joe" and below that 'Let's go Brandon' Haha! That could be done!
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Re: Trap modification
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09/20/23 07:41 AM
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Not cast jaws from what I know. Many guys have tried heating the jaw tips with poor results. Too much and it softens the jaw leg and too little results in broken tips as you still have to re-insert the tip. For some reason (the type of steel I think) it does not remain that soft and can break on the put back. Like I mentioned, I still like the old RJ Monts and call them the "poor man's MB" when you fiddle with the jaw and dog. Bought both the #1.5 and #2's (closed and OS RJ's) in the early 80's and out of the box, they were superior to the squares. Don't like to tinker (like you guys) but if it can be made better with a little retro then I will try it. I am comfortable with the dogless squares with the Bridger levers and the jaw filed smooth or laminated. The center swiveled base has never bowed on me with no reinforcement on the coyotes I have snagged in the last 30 years. So levers and jaws and I'm ready to go with the squares. Some unsuspecting mechanics cut the bolt off the underside of the pan on the dogless, thinking it is a tension adjustment. It is a jaw stop to keep the coyote from pulling the pan up and out of the jaws and bending it. Too much thought sometimes. I pick one up like that now and again. If anyone on here knows how to get those jaws out of the SJ #2 dogless Mont w/o cutting the base let me know as I may only have a few seasons left LOL. .................... the "aging older" mike
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Re: Trap modification
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09/20/23 11:45 AM
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This is a great idea! All bodygrip companies that have spring eyes that slip over the corners should do this. They'd sell more traps.
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Re: Trap modification
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09/20/23 06:19 PM
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Swamp wolf, I’m looking into the aluminum and just machining it out of one solid piece and threading the handle on. Awesome!
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Re: Trap modification
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09/20/23 06:44 PM
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I did laminations and pit pans on a dozen Sleepy Creek 4 1/2's. I thought they turned out great. Those look sick!!! Nice work! Thanks, I bought the lams from J.C. Conner, made it easy, just had to clamp them in place and weld them. Got the pan kits from Ed. x2 Flipper if ya ever need to save room in the shed I'd take those of your hands. I will make a mental note of that my friend!
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Re: Trap modification
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09/21/23 09:32 AM
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I was first introduced the concept of trap modifications in 1982 by Charlie Dobbins . He was someone that could /would analize what he thought was a problem and than set out to find a way to fix it .Many of his ideas where basic and simple to do At the same time he was taking stock traps and turning them into refined tools that had become works of art .Once he open that door many more improvements followed . What began with adding swivels and filing the triggers and notches created traps that so much improved that it seemed like they where a complete new invention .Just a few strokes of a file and taking the slack out of the trigger allowed the pan to set level and not wobble And that for me anyways resulted in fewer snapped empty traps and better grips on the quarry's foot pad . I had purchased some 1.75 coil spring traps After using them for a short time I was not happy with their performance A little bit of research pointed to putting inside lams on the jaws and base plating them That included swiveling them on the base plate . I starting liking that set up I quickly add additional traps of the arrangement. And it allowed me to improvement my catch due to it being more versatile to set for different animals And the lams made it a better holding trap Many of you have taken it to another level Iam impressed While it might be over kill to some people I see things that make me think I want me some of that Thanks for the pictures and the thought concepts behind your ideas There is always room for a better way of doing something.
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