Starting small; were your first traps little?
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08/15/23 02:53 PM
08/15/23 02:53 PM
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Joined: Aug 2023
Louisiana
Haughtonite
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Louisiana
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I am on a bit of a kick. Rebooted my membership here; glad to see some of the same old guys I used to read years ago.
I started with small traps. I had the oddball Victor single-coilspring #1s (some kind of intermediate from jumps to coils I guess?). Then I got old Victor 1.5 longsprings (the "horseshoe" jaws I think they call 'em, big gaps and ancient).
I used foiled pans and sardines to catch coon and possums, bought a small bottle of lure and snagged a few red fox, caught a grey fox in a log set; all with those #1s and 1.5 longs. I used saplings as drags a good bit. Caught my first couple dozen animals with those little, underpowered traps before I sold some fur and bought some old longsprings (Triumph #2 and #3 which still hold fur after 80+ years).
Bought some #1 longs and jumps off here to blind set for mink and to loan out to my younger kin. The notion of their light weight (ca. half the weight of a #1.5 cs) and my memories of how they did the job, coupled with other stories I have occasionally found on here, give me the sense that these small traps are a good starting point (and that they will hold unexpectedly large critters sometimes). I do not see enough of this topic when searching through the forums. Don't "flame".
So, to the point: Did you or your kin start with #0, 1,1.5 jumps or single longs? What did you catch that surprised you? Would you give them to a kid confident that they wouldn't disappoint if used correctly? If you reached in your pack and all you had was one of these little underpowered traps, would you set it (at least with a drag, drowner, other contraption) for mink, coon, fox, fisher, similar?
Last edited by Haughtonite; 08/15/23 03:32 PM. Reason: added word for clarity
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
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08/15/23 03:19 PM
08/15/23 03:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Rodney,Ohio
SNIPERBBB
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First traps I had were 1.5 long springs. Nothing special the first year.
Only time I was surprised by catching something in an undersized trap was a 50# in a no bs 1.5 on 4ft of chain. Back foot by 3, toes. But that was , 10 yrs or so into my career.
I wouldn't give a a new trapper anything smaller than a 1.5 starting out . I don't even recommend 110s for mink and muskrats these days. If I was short of my preferred trap size, I'd use the smaller trap, just need to be a bit more particular in making the set
Last edited by SNIPERBBB; 08/15/23 03:23 PM.
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
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08/15/23 03:54 PM
08/15/23 03:54 PM
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Joined: Nov 2017
West Central MN
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West Central MN
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Started out using Victor #0 LS for pocket gophers then onto #1 LS for muskrat. I can recall thinking how big those Victor #2 CS's where as a little kid!
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
#7929093
08/15/23 07:55 PM
08/15/23 07:55 PM
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Joined: Feb 2023
South Louisiana
Trappeur Gunny
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Bought a dozen #1 B&L long springs and started after nutria. A couple of old family members saw I was serious and they would throw me a trap or three. I ended up my second year with 1 1/2 LS, #2 doubles LS, a couple of 1 1/2 CS mixed array. By the time I was a senior in HS I was running 200 traps, many where 1 1/2 LS. The local bait shop gave me a line of credit. They would sell me sardines for 50 cents a can and .22 rounds at 98 cents for a box of 50. I could go in there and the owners, husband and wife, would let me take what I needed and I would square up with them a couple of time a month. Nutrias where the prime target, coons where second. My big money makers were mink and otters. I don’t think you can trap the animals of today with 1 1/2’s as they are bigger, stronger, smarter and can melt steel with their laser beam eyes.
My surprise was 2 otters in one night in 1 1/2 long springs under a bridge.
If I was starting a kid out I think the 1 1/2 long springs would be the ticket.
Last edited by Trappeur Gunny; 08/15/23 07:58 PM.
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
#7929126
08/15/23 09:04 PM
08/15/23 09:04 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Northern Nevada
Bob
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I started at 14 with some # 1 jumps, a couple 1.5 herters, a 110 conibear and some #1 single longs. I found them in my uncles garage, and asked if I could use them. I caught rabbits and skunks in the rock piles behind my aunt and uncles house and I was hooked. The next season I saved pennies and bought some bigger traps, some duke #2s and a couple 220 conibears. It snowballed from there lol.
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
#7929171
08/15/23 10:16 PM
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Joined: Aug 2013
Firth, Nebraska
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I had a dozen Vic #1 longs that I moved the chain to opposite the spring and used them on coon, but also had a bunch of #2 longs (northwoods and Blake and lamb) and used those for coyotes. They worked great.I could set longs way easier than bigger coils. Bought a few #3 longs the next season to use for coyotes and also some beaver. Jim
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
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Re: Starting small; were your first traps little?
[Re: Haughtonite]
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08/17/23 12:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
W NY
Turtledale
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W NY
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Started with B&L longs #1,#11/2. Some vic long #1 Vic coilspring 11/2. That was in the 70's. As me and my buddy Caught more fur we bought more traps. There were buyers everywhere back then fighting to buy your furs, boy I miss them days
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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