Quotes. By the time the American Revolution came around, the KJV of the Bible was the most cited bible in the land.

Hey, if the King James Version was good enough for the Apostle Paul, it's good enough for me.

Erh, pardon me me fellows but the Eastern Orthodox Catholic bible was copied long before the King James and historic theologians will tell you the Roman Catholic one was close behind so if you want one that is the oldest, those would be the ones. The bible (new testament) was copied by those monks, converted rabbis, disciple scholars and priests beginning in the 100-200 AD which would make them 1800-1900 years old. So lets not argue or compare Christian religions, just be akin/aware to the oldest writers of the bible. Old testament, the Jewish folks win that one by a large margin. ................the mike

I hope this is a joke!

Yes it's a joke.

And a good one.

Genesis 3:21
King James Version

21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.


Sounds like God clothed the whole human family. Since babies are born naked still some by choice prefer streaking thru the produce section, I guess in hopes of finding a leaf big enough ! Leaves maybe; but since the life is in the blood and redemption requires a just equal, not much redeeming qualities in a turnip.

This country was founded on Enlightenment principles. The politicians of the day just used some Christian language to describe them.

If you're trying to say that the enlightenment was anti Christian or wholly secular then I think that some reading on your part is in order.

I’m not. Just trying to make sure we don’t become too syncretic. America isn’t the Promised Land, and American right-wing politics are not the same thing as Christianity. From my perspective, there seems to be confusion about these things sometimes.

jht: Your word syncretic reminds me of a thing someone on here does or used to have pinned on the bottom of there posts that says: "I didn't believe in reincarnation in the last life and I don't believe in it in this one either", lol.

I've often thought the American experiment was God's way of showing us just how incorrigible mankind really is. We were handed something good and squandered it.

It would be a huge mistake and disservice to both church and state to say the we are a Christian nation but we are strongly influenced by the judeo-christian ethic. In essence Mr Adams was correct in that our form of governance is suitable only for a moral people.

Without morality rules and constitutions are meaningless.

Most of the founders would be considered conservative Christians today.

Interesting discussion. The most unabridged version of the bible? There are different translations and much debate about the meaning of certain scriptures. I believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly.

And I believe plain and precious things have been left out? Why do I believe this? Because I have a strong testimony of Another Testament Of Jesus Christ. This Witness of Jesus Christ and the gospel is The Book of Mormon. Reading this scripture will bring light and truth and clarity of the gospel of Jesus Christ that many struggle to find in their study of the bible alone. It is certainly not a replacement of the bible but a companion to it. If you read it with sincerity asking God if it is true you will receive a witness that it is true. You will find plain and precious things that are left out of the bible or lost in translation and you will become closer to Jesus Christ.

One page description of what you can learn from the Book of Mormon:

Only one small problem. The jesus of mormonism is not the Jesus of the bible. Actually, not even close.

Joseph Smith, a petty thief and con artist, served Satan.

Seeing as how it hadn't been written yet I don't think Paul used it.

The problem with mormonism isn't just the book of mormon. I think you could still be a born again Christian and believe in the fanciful tales in the book of mormon. I've read the book of mormon and didn't notice any blatant blasphemous statements. However, it is quite a work of fiction that has been changed in many places over a fairly
short period of time.

The problem with mormonism though is found in their other books upon which blasphemous doctrines are derived; The Pearl of Great Price, Book of Solomon, and Doctrines & Covenants.

1599 Geneva Bible. That is the one that first came over here, or a Tyndale .