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Mulching around new trees #7850577
04/21/23 11:53 PM
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Does anyone use moss instead of landscaping bark? I usually use wood chips or landscaping bark. Last night after I finished up planting trees I realized the Chief River bag had a bunch of what appeared to be moss in it. I spread it around my new trees & it seemed to work great.

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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7872574
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From what I've read it seems like mulching should be done different around fruit trees than other trees

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Moss is used to help retain moisture in a sapling container or ball & burlap arrangement.

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7872843
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Just don't volcano mulch trees

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7874670
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Just don't volcano mulch trees

Corrrect. Good point. I spread a lot of mulch this weekend & was careful so as to do it properly

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7874684
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Mulch keeps the weeds down so the trees don't have to compete with weeds for water and nutrients

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Mulch in all my trees, pine trees get a health pile of wood ash, got 12 inches of growth from all my small Pines this spring

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: Wild_WI] #7876487
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
Mulch keeps the weeds down so the trees don't have to compete with weeds for water and nutrients

The mulch also seems to help hold the water in place when I pour some water on a tree to irrigate it. It doesn't seem to have half of it run off.

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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7876492
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I once put wet grass clipping around young dogwoods. Killed them when the grass soured..

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7876493
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I've heard the smell of cedar mulch can scare away pollinators.

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7884203
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Sawdust might work and it is free for those w/ access to it

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7931302
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Some use a small square sheet of what appears to basically be almost like landscape fabric.

Maybe they use something like this, but smaller.?:
VisPore Tree Mats 3’ x 3’ Bundle of 100 | eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112129161569

If a tree is that noticeable, it might make it easier for deer to hone in on it though

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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7931325
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I wouldn’t use tree bark mulch or any commercial mulch of that type. When “mulch”, if you want to call that stuff mulch, breaks down it draws nitrogen from the soil, as plant matter starts to breakdown it needs a boast of nitrogen to jump start the breaking down process. I have two actually mulch piles in the woods and 4 mulch tumblers in my garden. I will spread real broke doom mulch on my property late winter.

The only two trees I mulch with a purpose is two little pecan trees I planted last year. I have wire fence around them to keep the chickens out. We had landscaping with the barrier sheets and fake mulch, rocks and all of that. After taking free classes from LSU Ag and LDWF I decided to turn my land into a wildlife preserve, but still maintain a well manicured appearance. Grass now covers where fancy crap was, and my trees love it! Grass makes the best natural mulch for a yard.

Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: Trappeur Gunny] #7931343
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Originally Posted by Trappeur Gunny
I wouldn’t use tree bark mulch or any commercial mulch of that type. When “mulch”, if you want to call that stuff mulch, breaks down it draws nitrogen from the soil, as plant matter starts to breakdown it needs a boast of nitrogen to jump start the breaking down process. I have two actually mulch piles in the woods and 4 mulch tumblers in my garden. I will spread real broke doom mulch on my property late winter.

The only two trees I mulch with a purpose is two little pecan trees I planted last year. I have wire fence around them to keep the chickens out. We had landscaping with the barrier sheets and fake mulch, rocks and all of that. After taking free classes from LSU Ag and LDWF I decided to turn my land into a wildlife preserve, but still maintain a well manicured appearance. Grass now covers where fancy crap was, and my trees love it! Grass makes the best natural mulch for a yard.


Most grasses are nitrogen hogs and don't build soil. Much better plants for "live" mulching. For trees, or anything else really, you don't want fresh wood mulches. Aged is better, especially for trees as trees tend to like more fungal environment. Good compost needs both brown (carbon) and green(nitrogen) sources. Lot of the permiculturists do chop and drop around trees that is cutting whatever greens and dropping them under the trees.

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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7931373
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Trappeur Gunny
I wouldn’t use tree bark mulch or any commercial mulch of that type. When “mulch”, if you want to call that stuff mulch, breaks down it draws nitrogen from the soil, as plant matter starts to breakdown it needs a boast of nitrogen to jump start the breaking down process. I have two actually mulch piles in the woods and 4 mulch tumblers in my garden. I will spread real broke doom mulch on my property late winter.

The only two trees I mulch with a purpose is two little pecan trees I planted last year. I have wire fence around them to keep the chickens out. We had landscaping with the barrier sheets and fake mulch, rocks and all of that. After taking free classes from LSU Ag and LDWF I decided to turn my land into a wildlife preserve, but still maintain a well manicured appearance. Grass now covers where fancy crap was, and my trees love it! Grass makes the best natural mulch for a yard.


Most grasses are nitrogen hogs and don't build soil. Much better plants for "live" mulching. For trees, or anything else really, you don't want fresh wood mulches. Aged is better, especially for trees as trees tend to like more fungal environment. Good compost needs both brown (carbon) and green(nitrogen) sources. Lot of the permiculturists dondo chip and drop around trees that is cutting whatever greens and dropping them under the trees.

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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7931375
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I was going to mulch my apple tree this fall with woodchips.
The thought was weed control.
Also I was hoping to hold back the spring thaw and budding until after last frost ?
Is this a feasible option ?


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Originally Posted by Dillrod
I was going to mulch my apple tree this fall with woodchips.
The thought was weed control.
Also I was hoping to hold back the spring thaw and budding until after last frost ?
Is this a feasible option ?


I've heard certain mulches, perhaps cedar, can have a fragrance that scares some pollinators away.

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rotten hay works very good for me down here. It allows me to cut my watering time in half for newly planted trees.


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Re: Mulching around new trees [Re: AJE] #7932056
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Originally Posted by Dillrod
I was going to mulch my apple tree this fall with woodchips.
The thought was weed control.
Also I was hoping to hold back the spring thaw and budding until after last frost ?
Is this a feasible option ?



Wood chips pull nitrogen out of the soil, so you will need to add nitrogen back.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Dillrod
I was going to mulch my apple tree this fall with woodchips.
The thought was weed control.
Also I was hoping to hold back the spring thaw and budding until after last frost ?
Is this a feasible option ?



Wood chips pull nitrogen out of the soil, so you will need to add nitrogen back.

Keith

It would be hard to know how much nitrogen to add back w/out adding too much.

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