Re: Critique time
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/25/23 10:29 AM
08/25/23 10:29 AM
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Seldom
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By using 3 scents at the same test location you've made it so there is no way to decipher which scent if any is the most attractive and which the least. I strongly suggest making 3 separate tests sites with a single scent in or at each.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: steeltraps]
#7936577
08/25/23 01:02 PM
08/25/23 01:02 PM
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Midland, MI.
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I thought you were testing rather than setting, my mistake. Too bad you didn't have your camera on video, photos miss too much.
Last edited by Seldom; 08/25/23 01:07 PM.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: rick olson]
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08/25/23 03:43 PM
08/25/23 03:43 PM
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Midland, MI.
Seldom
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95% of my sets I used 3 scents, proven scents that worked together in combination. they don't work a set as hard over at times,less foot movement unless there's something they really want. The key words here are “unless there’s something they really want”. I’ve proven in my area, that there are a few scents (lures & baits) that create high to very high levels of desire and attraction throughout the entire year but many, many more do not as mentioned in the previous reply. I have published videos showing this, in fact, in one late summer video 5 pups can be seen, trying to get what was in my test hole at the same time with the old female standing off to the side
Last edited by Seldom; 08/25/23 04:28 PM.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/25/23 05:26 PM
08/25/23 05:26 PM
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SW Georgia
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Ok, guess I didn’t make my post clear. I’m not supposed to be kneeling, excessive stretching, etc…I just wanted to see if I “could” make a set. I found “the spot” from reading the Post Set thread so I made one.
You can see the “cleared” spot in the photo…trap. I was just wondering should I have placed it differently. I didn’t over block and tried to make it as natural as possible. Yes, if I was back to my normal self I would have had two traps there, lol. And probably another set on the other side to cover different winds. But unfortunately I’m not to that point yet.
The lures I used are lures I trust and have caught coyotes on before. I generally always use urine and a lure. Sometimes 2 like this set. As far as bait goes, down here that’s just asking for an ant bed before dark. If it was say 60 degrees cooler I would definitely have a bait at one set. Winter also brings rain and softer ground, right now it’s almost cement.
Seldom, you are correct, what lure is he actually interested in? Can’t answer that yet. I’ve caught on both by themselves so I’d say both, but in another 2-3 weeks I’ll put each to the test when I can start making sets. Doc wants me to hold off for now to make sure my hip doesn’t pop out of socket. I understand that’s quite painful, lol. I will say I watch your videos and rad everything you post. There’s a lure your test seems to perform in, but I never made a catch on it and neither did my son. Not saying it’s the lure’s fault, it was probably ours in our application. I may try it again one day, but so far I’m having success with Lucero’s lures. And that in itself, is interesting because the first batch I got to try out came second hand from a guy here in Georgia who told me they didn’t work for him. And he catches critters so it wasn’t his application.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: rick olson]
#7936770
08/25/23 05:27 PM
08/25/23 05:27 PM
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Midland, MI.
Seldom
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Two words you never say in trapping or hunting,never and always.Coyotes being a coyote,there will never be magic in a bottle or jar,lure or bait. I never said magic in a bottle, I did say there were some lures & baits that caused a high desire and attraction all year round and most didn’t. If you haven’t ever found one or a couple, sucks to be you! I will say this though, there are lures and baits that are “magic in a bottle” compared to a chitload of others, maybe as high as 98%! There are a lot of “those who say it to the greatest magnitude” that there is no magic in a bottle as well but never tell you there can be lures and baits far, far better for creating desire and attraction than others and PROVE IT. I believe they keep saying it because they use it as an excuse for poor or mediocre performance of a scent of a lure or bait. It has to be the coyotes because as you know, coyotes are just coyotes!! LMAO!
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Re: Critique time
[Re: warrior]
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08/25/23 06:28 PM
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And I have no illusions that was the first coyote or time that set was visited. Thanks man. There’s a few on here that give me hope, you and Steeltraps are two that do. It’s nice to see the experienced sometimes don’t catch everything the first time around.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7936849
08/25/23 07:03 PM
08/25/23 07:03 PM
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Midland, MI.
Seldom
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Ok, guess I didn’t make my post clear. I’m not supposed to be kneeling, excessive stretching, etc…I just wanted to see if I “could” make a set. I found “the spot” from reading the Post Set thread so I made one.
You can see the “cleared” spot in the photo…trap. I was just wondering should I have placed it differently. I didn’t over block and tried to make it as natural as possible. Yes, if I was back to my normal self I would have had two traps there, lol. And probably another set on the other side to cover different winds. But unfortunately I’m not to that point yet.
The lures I used are lures I trust and have caught coyotes on before. I generally always use urine and a lure. Sometimes 2 like this set. As far as bait goes, down here that’s just asking for an ant bed before dark. If it was say 60 degrees cooler I would definitely have a bait at one set. Winter also brings rain and softer ground, right now it’s almost cement.
Seldom, you are correct, what lure is he actually interested in? Can’t answer that yet. I’ve caught on both by themselves so I’d say both, but in another 2-3 weeks I’ll put each to the test when I can start making sets. Doc wants me to hold off for now to make sure my hip doesn’t pop out of socket. I understand that’s quite painful, lol. I will say I watch your videos and rad everything you post. There’s a lure your test seems to perform in, but I never made a catch on it and neither did my son. Not saying it’s the lure’s fault, it was probably ours in our application. I may try it again one day, but so far I’m having success with Lucero’s lures. And that in itself, is interesting because the first batch I got to try out came second hand from a guy here in Georgia who told me they didn’t work for him. And he catches critters so it wasn’t his application. I’ve tried to make it clear in my videos that just because a scent works for me doesn’t mean it’ll work for you in your territory and the opposite is also true, why? I don’t know but it is what it is! You mentioned the coyote didn’t step as you’d planned, take note and make the necessary adjustments because it was telling you exactly how to catch it in that particular set
Last edited by Seldom; 08/25/23 07:05 PM.
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Re: Critique time
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7936893
08/25/23 07:53 PM
08/25/23 07:53 PM
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sportsman94
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Wannabe, my preference is to have a shorter “post” and put the pan about 5” out. One of my latest videos shows coyotes marking a rock that’s probably 4” tall. You can see how they straddle it, but their feet seem to stay around the 5-6” mark. When you use something small, be it a hole, rock, pine cone, etc you can’t get the pan too close to the attractor. They will step all over it. I’ve done the tall post thing before, but now if you see something tall by my trap it’s got a rub lure on it. I want to encourage them to go over the top of whatever it is because then you have the chance when they investigate the scent (front foot), when they go to mark (back foot), and sometimes they seem to turn around going back the way they came which gives you the front and back foot option again. With that said, the coyote appeared interested and you’ll probably catch him or another sooner or later.
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