if you trap where roads are just trails 4wd is a big advantage

Anyone that actually gets off road agrees with this 100% and it they don't they expose their very limited experience and driving conditions.

Weight makes a big difference in snow drifts I found. After years of Toyotas, jeeps and f 150s I was blown away how much better I got around in my 7.3 excursion. When I would be pulled around in ruts the excursion made its own path and blew right on through. When I would have to go forward and back several times in the mall rigs to get through the x just keeps going without any of that. But in deep bottom less mud the e sinks and the lighter rigs do better.

Had some young guys in a 1500 Chevy 4x4 trying to pull a jeep cheeroke that had gone off the road on ice back on the road. They just keep spinning. Started slow, progressed to yanking couldn't do it. I idled down thth th x and asked if they wanted me to try. " well you can if you want bilut it won't do any good. I went down hooked up checked how the connection was on the jeep and told the lady stuck to watch her front end and not get into the hackaberry tree a few inches from her fender. Then got in the x and put it in drive. I never had to get on the throttle and idled her right out. Those 20 year old Chevy boys were very deflated. Tried to say it was the diesel power I didn't tap into. I told them nope it's the 10k lbs of weight geting traction on the ice vs the 3500lbs of your truck. I saw the light come on with thar comment. Something tells me they didn't tell their friends a Ford pulled out a jeep without any effort they could not budge with their Chevy.

In my opinion snow is sorta it’s own beast. It can be just like mud. But instead of hard and greasy etc it comes in heavy and wet or dry and powdery or dry sugar sand and every other combo. Once the snows deep enough all the weight in truck acts same as mud. You end up on the frame and the tires are lifted up from contact and there you stop. But at least a shovel may get you out. Or not.

How many “4WD” are really just 2WD today one front one back wheel pulling? Most of the older ones were 2WD unless you had a posi in the back a lot of folks were clueless about that. Talked to a biologist in the MI DNR that said they went to limited slip but when they tested them most had failed over time that was a long time ago.

So is there a true 4WD vehicle the best I ever had that I know of is a 3WD with a posi or locker in the back no clue about other drivetrains.

Have you ever preferred a 2wd over a 4wd. I know I have not. The only thing I like about my 2wd ranger better than a 4x4 now that I'm a little older is its lowered and easier to reach into the bed to get things out from over the side. Now if it were 4x4 and low to the ground like the 79 Chevy luv it would be perfect for my use now. On my farm and road driving I done require high ground clearance like I did when I was off reading just to off road like when I was young. Besides all those old mines are now closed and been sold off and off limits nowm

You wouldnt be able to steer well with both front tires pulling.

How many “4WD” are really just 2WD today one front one back wheel pulling? Most of the older ones were 2WD unless you had a posi in the back a lot of folks were clueless about that. Talked to a biologist in the MI DNR that said they went to limited slip but when they tested them most had failed over time that was a long time ago.

So is there a true 4WD vehicle the best I ever had that I know of is a 3WD with a posi or locker in the back no clue about other drivetrains.

My 96 f150 has manual hubs and I like that. If I think I’ll need 4 wheel drive I’ll lock them in before I climb in. The off season when you hardly ever need 4x4 I lock them in once in awhile. Not sure if necessary but makes me feel better.