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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945647
09/06/23 09:03 PM
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Had 15 years in the UMWA, 2015 I was kicked out of the 1979 pension plan because I was under the age of 50 and/or didn't have 20 years service. Lost my pension and health card when I retired. Yep UNION STRONG!!!!!

Re: Greed [Re: KeithC] #7945670
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Toyota pays their US production workers $16.64 an hour.

Ford pays their US production workers $16.94 an hour. Ford workers have to pay the UAW $10.00, once, plus 1.44 percent of their pay, so they get $16.69 an hour.

A nickel isn't much difference in pay.

quote]. My wife was UAW line worked back in 80s her pay scale $13.75 plus benefits. They say she was making $25.00 hour\\ her brothers was UAW and her dad was a union rep .

Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945675
09/06/23 09:30 PM
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How about this,,the company don't sign the contract and let them strike.Then bring in non Union workers to build your vehicles??Perfectly legal.No law says a Company has to sign an unfair contract. Should be no problem since you Union haters say monkeys could do the Union work.What you say AntiGov? You like that idea? [/quote]


Yes , absolutely


And let the Union guys start their own company ..........and since they know everything they can extort themselves...lol



The Hundai plant in Alabama is the most productive auto manufacturer in America ( 2nd in the world )

The NON-union manufacturer produces a car faster than its unionized competitors .


People lined up to get the non union jobs when the factory opened , they build a quality car for a reasonable price . A win win win for everyone

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Crickets......lol


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Re: Greed [Re: KeithC] #7945680
09/06/23 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by oneuglyduck
Are you saying Toyota doesn't pay their employees descent living wage. Is there any Toyota plant workers on this site ?


Toyota pays their US production workers $16.64 an hour.

Ford pays their US production workers $16.94 an hour. Ford workers have to pay the UAW $10.00, once, plus 1.44 percent of their pay, so they get $16.69 an hour.

A nickel isn't much difference in pay.

Keith



Keith Ford tops out over 30$ in Louisville.

My neibor also a Keith just retired from Ford a millionaire and didn't do that on $16 an hour.

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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945687
09/06/23 09:52 PM
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I read an article years ago that stated for every new GM car , the first $6000 dollars went to non-productive union workers

Non-productive included : retirees and paid to be on stand by ( stay at home )


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Re: Greed [Re: trapdog1] #7945694
09/06/23 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
That does say a lot......


Agree. Good post Hippie!

Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945697
09/06/23 10:11 PM
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Re: Greed [Re: upstateNY] #7945698
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by danny clifton
toyota builds quality. how can that be in a nonunion plant?

Why doesn't the price reflect being built in a non union plant?


I just shopped for a new truck last year.
My ranger was 10g less than a compareably equipped tacoma.
Better engine in the ford(ecoboost) and better gas milage.
So if union is overpaid who is pocketing the extra 10g that is being ripped off the consumer by non union???

Greed my arse.
Easy to see where the greed is.

Last edited by Boco; 09/06/23 10:12 PM.

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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945699
09/06/23 10:13 PM
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No crickets at all its been done over and over again. The company would not sign a contract if they didn't project making a profit. They sign it and hire incompetent managers that run it in the ground. No worries the head guys get millions in bonuses.

2 there is no high quality Hyundai made. They are low quality cheap vehicals. Especially the last I ne mom had.

How did the union tank bud light? Talk about crickets

And son I do run a farm and my wife runs a business as well. All possible becuse I had the security an wages from my union job to bank roll the businesses start up cost.

Sorry you don't have the opportunity to have a job with amazing benefits at an affordable price. It's amazing my company also makes millions a year on my plant.

I'm 43 cash in the bank more than enough to pay off the few small loans I still have out. But I'm making more on the money I have than the intrest on the loans so don't pay them off.

I'm essentially debt free in fact making 4% off the debt I have out and will retire with over 3 million in assets.
Now I'm only going to work 18 days during Oct and November since I have vacation and will be taking the kids hunting.
Now I'm probably not going to make more than 120k this year since I'm not going to work a bunch more ot the rest of the year but I could make over 150 if I wanted.

How are you doing there? That non union job getting you where you want to be? I know my union job is.

How may hours do you work a week? You know those union guys are lazy. I only worked 97.5 hrs at work last week In. 6 days then drove 127mils home for the first time in 6 days after working over 16 hrs each day on night shift stayed up all day working on my farm so was up 38 hrs befor geting to sleep.

Ever been at work over 3 days without leaving to keep the place running when ther was a state of emergency. Of course you haven't. That's one of the many reasons the company benefits from having union employees.

It sure is nice to be able to have 16 weeks off a year and make over 6 figures and be able to work as muck ot as you want so you can wright your own check. O did I tell you about my pension and 401k match? How about my 51$ a week health insurance with vision and dental. Or that I cam make enough money my wife does not have to work outside the home and can home school the kids instead of sending them to a government indoctrination camp.


The have not are always jealous of the haves and want to blame other for their lacking.

Enjoy your job don't bash mine just becuse you wish you had it.









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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945703
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Funny all you union basher sure were praising all the electricians geting the power back on after the storms. News flash since you missed it. Linemen are UNION.

Re: Greed [Re: Providence Farm] #7945716
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Funny all you union basher sure were praising all the electricians geting the power back on after the storms. News flash since you missed it. Linemen are UNION.



My power never went off


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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945722
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Funny all you union basher sure were praising all the electricians geting the power back on after the storms. News flash since you missed it. Linemen are UNION.



My power never went off
be glad you notnin the storms path. Just wait tell your next fire.

You can thank a union lineman for having powere lines ran to your house and union construction that built the generation stations that produce and transport your power.

Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945724
09/06/23 10:36 PM
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Hyundai went from a crap car to the top of the list for reliability in about ten years...... pretty impressive


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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945725
09/06/23 10:40 PM
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Some of the most devastating fires here in the west in recent years were caused by poorly maintained power lines ( union workers ?)


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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945727
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Hyundai went from a crap car to the top of the list for reliability in about ten years...... pretty impressive


Maybe on the west cost. Not in fly over country.


Bud light went from the best selling beer in the US for decades to not in a few months. Also impressive. What did the union employees have to do with the 26% drop in sales.

Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945729
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Some of the most devastating fires here in the west in recent years were caused by poorly maintained power lines ( union workers ?)



Try company's cutting corners and left leaning environmentalists not alowing new and updated lines and poor management of wilderness areas creating tons of fuel and great conditions for intense fires. But keep changing the target. And avoid. Your good at something at least.

Re: Greed [Re: Providence Farm] #7945731
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Hyundai went from a crap car to the top of the list for reliability in about ten years...... pretty impressive


Maybe on the west cost. Not in fly over country.


Bud light went from the best selling beer in the US for decades to not in a few months. Also impressive. What did the union employees have to do with the 26% drop in sales.



Hyundai has the best auto warranty in the industry , not just west coast but all their cars .

I don't own one , just using them as an example of a company that has excelled in excellence without union workers


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Re: Greed [Re: Providence Farm] #7945732
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Some of the most devastating fires here in the west in recent years were caused by poorly maintained power lines ( union workers ?)



Try company's cutting corners and left leaning environmentalists not alowing new and updated lines and poor management of wilderness areas creating tons of fuel and great conditions for intense fires. But keep changing the target. And avoid. Your good at something at least.



Lol


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Re: Greed [Re: AntiGov] #7945734
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You can't call yourself a true conservative and sell yourself to the unions ......or can you ? Or maybe you're not a conservative ? IDK


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Re: Greed [Re: Providence Farm] #7945740
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm


No crickets at all its been done over and over again. The company would not sign a contract if they didn't project making a profit. They sign it and hire incompetent managers that run it in the ground. No worries the head guys get millions in bonuses.

2 there is no high quality Hyundai made. They are low quality cheap vehicals. Especially the last I ne mom had.

How did the union tank bud light? Talk about crickets

And son I do run a farm and my wife runs a business as well. All possible becuse I had the security an wages from my union job to bank roll the businesses start up cost.

Sorry you don't have the opportunity to have a job with amazing benefits at an affordable price. It's amazing my company also makes millions a year on my plant.

I'm 43 cash in the bank more than enough to pay off the few small loans I still have out. But I'm making more on the money I have than the intrest on the loans so don't pay them off.

I'm essentially debt free in fact making 4% off the debt I have out and will retire with over 3 million in assets.
Now I'm only going to work 18 days during Oct and November since I have vacation and will be taking the kids hunting.
Now I'm probably not going to make more than 120k this year since I'm not going to work a bunch more ot the rest of the year but I could make over 150 if I wanted.

How are you doing there? That non union job getting you where you want to be? I know my union job is.

How may hours do you work a week? You know those union guys are lazy. I only worked 97.5 hrs at work last week In. 6 days then drove 127mils home for the first time in 6 days after working over 16 hrs each day on night shift stayed up all day working on my farm so was up 38 hrs befor geting to sleep.

Ever been at work over 3 days without leaving to keep the place running when ther was a state of emergency. Of course you haven't. That's one of the many reasons the company benefits from having union employees.

It sure is nice to be able to have 16 weeks off a year and make over 6 figures and be able to work as muck ot as you want so you can wright your own check. O did I tell you about my pension and 401k match? How about my 51$ a week health insurance with vision and dental. Or that I cam make enough money my wife does not have to work outside the home and can home school the kids instead of sending them to a government indoctrination camp.


The have not are always jealous of the haves and want to blame other for their lacking.

Enjoy your job don't bash mine just becuse you wish you had it.









Lol ...you hate your job and you know it


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