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Pentagon 2001 #7949018
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I was watching some 9/11 coverage, and there was some interesting verbiage describing the pentagon "attack". It was consistently described as an "explosion", and wreckage "nearby". That just doesn't make any sense with an airplane crash!


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Originally Posted by Yukon John
I was watching some 9/11 coverage, and there was some interesting verbiage describing the pentagon "attack". It was consistently described as an "explosion", and wreckage "nearby". That just doesn't make any sense with an airplane crash!

Somthing fishy for sure.


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Some of y’all keep the tin foil companies in business.

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I got a 100X foil hat and if you watch this really short clip of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon maybe you could fashion your own

These two video that were confiscated by the DHS have been leaked one of them for more than 15 years and the other I don't know how long. But we have two angles that show a missile hitting the Pentagon not a plane

It is what it is

Y'all can stay asleep if you like that's how they want you anyway.





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So where did the missing plane go? Where did all the people on that missing flight go? Who fired the missile you speak of?

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Originally Posted by Kong
So where did the missing plane go? Where did all the people on that missing flight go? Cleaned up covertly by the Warren Comission
Who fired the missile you speak of?Militant Cubans

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I mean you can clearly see that it was a missile and not a 747 that hit the Pentagon

The testimony of Norman Mineta to Congress on the 911 commission was public and he claims that the Pentagon scrambled jets to shoot the passenger plane down that "crashed" in Pennsylvania..

Here is part of his testimony



His testimony was met with a Media coverup and he was denounced as a conspiracy theorist. The official 911 commission report omitted his testimony.

We don't know for sure if 10 min countdown that was spoken to Cheney was about the plane shot down over Pennsylvania or the missile that hit the Pentagon. What we do know is the govt covered it up and claimed it was a plane when it wasn't.

Why is the question.


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Here is the BBC reporting that building 7, the third building to fall in NYC on 911 in its own footprint like it was demolished, before it actually fell. In the report it can be seen in the background



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Originally Posted by Kong
So where did the missing plane go? Where did all the people on that missing flight go? Who fired the missile you speak of?


Who were the people souposed to be on the flight? Were they on it ? And who knows?

You sure don't see any wingd or tail of a plane sticking out of the building . In other footage you will only see a round hole in the building no place where wings hit it. Seems odd if not off.

Never seen a building or 3 collapse like a perfect demolition . O it was from the heat. Never mind the the buildings that burned in other countries with the same construction that didn't collapse. Or that building 7 fell the exact same way due to damage from the other falling. But it didn't have the heat because it was not hit by a plane and the several other buildings closer didn't fall.

If you don't at least question the story then.. it's hard to swallow people could do such a thing or pull off but there is some things that don't add up and the explanations are flimsy at best.

What happend I don't know but there is more to it. It may not be what people think but the tree is more to it.

Like JFK there was no reason to lock down the info tell everyone that could be involved was dead yet that's what was done. What are they hiding and protecting.

Went to war over a bad guy we backed and put into power, supposedly had WMD and didn't. Then invaded another country because of the terrorist hide there . Yet the leader was killed in yet a different country and those flying the plans were from Saudi Arabia our friend. Didn't invade or attack them. O and we backed bin Landen also..

Where are the flight logs and client list from that island? How did a guy hang himself on suicide watch with a paper sheet at the same time the security cameras turn off?

How do people commit suicide shooting themselves twice in the back of the head?

Everything we are told is a lye. Right vs left R vs D it's a shell game to give you the illusion you have a voice and say in the government. It keeps you obedient and participating in the system.

I'm sure many hear can't accept this being a touch older and set in their ways and beliefs.

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Great post Providence. We are of the same mind my friend

Here is a video that came out 2 days ago in preparation for 911
It details building 7 the reason it fell out of the mouth of the owner, and how it happened.

Building 7 is how you wake a person up to 911 truth.

The Pentagon was shot by a missile and it appears our own govt did it in order to make us support endless wars and the patriot act which is now being used against us.

We consented to our own destruction by way of fear and propaganda
[video:youtube]https://rumble.com/v3g2es4-building-7.html[/video]

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So what are we gonna do about it?

The answer to that is very important, but we can't come up with it until we have a real and honest conversation about where we are, and how we got here.


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Anyone remember Waco reporting they set themselves on fire? Years later o well yes it was could have been our gas that started the fire. Or how they painted randy weaver and tried to portray that mess.

I'm not saying this or that happened just that you would have to be brain dead not to question everything.

It would be like catching your wife having a friend over when your souposed to be at work. Working it out and seeing the pattern repeat later and believing what she is telling you even after seeing someone run out the back door.

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the mic made trillions from what followed the 9/11 attacks and now they want war with russia.


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Originally Posted by Ken Smith
So what are we gonna do about it?

The answer to that is very important, but we can't come up with it until we have a real and honest conversation about where we are, and how we got here.



I'm going to work more overtime and pay more taxes over 18k ytd out of my check so far. Then take a few of my days off and vacation to try to get caught up on everything that's behind becuse of the ot and take the boys hunting a bunch. Then start the circle again with OT and the delusion I'm going to get ahead investing in the funds destroying the country. Then argue with union bashers on line about how unions are bad supporting democrats.

Then gripe and moan about what's going on, rising prices, gov corruption and how dumb the other team is and watch everyone talk about how we need to win the next election and will get them this time. Knowing it's all a controlled system.

The question what can be done? I don't see a viable or likely solution. So I will just work some more 97 hr weeks and take off a few days to take the kids hunt tell they tax me out of my farm and come to load us in the transports .
Life is good. The electric is on,the ac works, the freezerz are full, garden is producing, and family is mostly healthy. No since working about things GOD told us what's coming and it's going to get a whole lot worse. God is in charge.

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It is my understanding that the brunt of the damage was to a room of records. I just can't comprehend how there wasn't a bigger deal made out of our most secure military institution being compromised.


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I'm if the understanding that God has given the earth to the prince of the power of the air, as he did to Job. To see how we are going to react. We could react like King Asa, King Josiah, Elijah and use our free will to stop it or just sit and watch the world go to the prophesied Revelation 13 one world govt.

See the longer men do justice and judgement the longer we have to preach to lost souls and see them full heaven.

Infact it's a honour to do justice and judgment as psalm 149 teaches. The issue is trying to show christians the truth not just about the coming world govt, but about the fact we have been given free will to stop it. Not for eternity, but for as long as we are willing to turn to God he will deliver us. As he did Job

Here is some scripture to back up my understanding

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I share this a lot. I preach this a lot, I know it's true no matter how much false prophets try to push the Romans 13 do whatever any govt says garbage. If our first president believed that he would have never stood up.

I don't think we should play until it happens I think we should work to stop it

It takes just one man of renown to stand tall preach the gospel and tell the world we can do this

God will deliver, or watch us fall into perdition. It's our choice really at least in outlr time

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Originally Posted by Yukon John
It is my understanding that the brunt of the damage was to a room of records. I just can't comprehend how there wasn't a bigger deal made out of our most secure military institution being compromised.


That's correct, just like building 7 was housing the securities and exchange commission office that held all of their records.
The day before 911 Donald Rumsfeld told the American public on C-SPAN during a speech about "Defense Business Practices" how the govt had not been able to track 2.3 trillion dollars of money meant to be spent on defense

Here is the short clip
2.3 Trillion

Most people don't know this it was never spoke of again by the govt, and it was removed from YouTube, but YouTube does have a fact check up to tell how this "didn't happen"


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Originally Posted by Ken Smith
I'm if the understanding that God has given the earth to the prince of the power of the air, as he did to Job. To see how we are going to react. We could react like King Asa, King Josiah, Elijah and use our free will to stop it or just sit and watch the world go to the prophesied Revelation 13 one world govt.

See the longer men do justice and judgement the longer we have to preach to lost souls and see them full heaven.

Infact it's a honour to do justice and judgment as psalm 149 teaches. The issue is trying to show christians the truth not just about the coming world govt, but about the fact we have been given free will to stop it. Not for eternity, but for as long as we are willing to turn to God he will deliver us. As he did Job

Here is some scripture to back up my understanding

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I share this a lot. I preach this a lot, I know it's true no matter how much false prophets try to push the Romans 13 do whatever any govt says garbage. If our first president believed that he would have never stood up.

I don't think we should play until it happens I think we should work to stop it

It takes just one man of renown to stand tall preach the gospel and tell the world we can do this

God will deliver, or watch us fall into perdition. It's our choice really at least in outlr time


You missed the important part and thats paying taxes and working overtime.

Now I'm conflicted here. Either you belive all of the bible or none of it. It's the unerring word of GOD or it is not! I can't pick and chose the parts I like and discard others I don't. Ita all or nothing or it's false and what's the point.

So I chosen it's All. I fall under the new covenant and grace. I also can't stomach the obay the rulers without question yet it's there. So I stand conflicted with my earthly desires and human sin nature limited understanding.
I don't believe it's in me to be able to turn the other cheek anymore than I can not notice a well built female walk by. I prefer I didn't notice yet I do. So I will probably fail at blindly geting into the train cars as well. What I won't do is refer to any scripture as crap or garbage. Rather I will say I have persional difficulty with it.

God is in charge and I don't have F 16s after all!. I pray for guidance and understanding and that i can live up to the potential God made me and to do his will. Of course I'm thick headed and head strong and will fail miserably. The heas spinning part is that is also part of the plan I'm sure. My failures made me who I am and got me where I'm at.

Boy am I rambling that probably didn't make a coherent thought I hope it did though.

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The scripture isn't crap lol, the interpretation is. It's a false doctrine using a cryptic scripture and wresting it to conflict with the Word of God. I'll show you

So Romans 13 is a verse that is commonly used by tyrants to force christians to comply with their tyranny. Hitler used it and so did Obama, they are not alone but the first two the popped into my head. The scripture says..

Romans 13:1-7 KJV
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. [6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. [7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due ; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Now this is very clearly written but the fact that the rulers put in by God are ordained of God part is very important, because those very rulers are not to be a terror to good works, but something evil people should fear

In our world the govt is a terrorist organization, that uplifts the evil and terrorizes the good. This is not an ordained by God ruler of this world. God even spoke about how Israel put up rulers and they were not of him. So what did he do, he had them destroyed and thrown into bondage over and over. Eventually scattering them into the wind

Verse for proof. I'll post the verse you should check the context

Hosea 8:2-4 KJV
Israel shall cry unto me, My God, we know thee. [3] Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. [4] They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

See God knows not every govt on the earth is set up by him, and anyone who reads the whole bible honestly does too, but the bible colleges and cemeteries, I mean seminaries don't. They preach lies to up and coming young high school aged men and then send them into the christian world to work and run churches and they eventually come to your church and teach you. Many of those men taught this lie and so many others are much older than me and running churches now.

They say "submit to every govt because every govt is of God "

But God clearly said differently even about his own chosen people and nation.

So who's right the bible college trained pastors or God?

The question is rhetorical because the answer is clear. God will always be right so let God be true and every man a liar. The bible clearly teaches it is the honour of all saints to do justice and judgment and to execute punishments on the heathens, to bind their kings in chains and nobles in fetters of iron, to execute on THEM the judgment "written " not the judgment we want, and definitely not forgoing judgment. That verse is the one I shared previously is Psalm 149 my fav chapter other than Matthew 7 which also teaches clear judgment.

So Jesus clearly told the disciples to sell their coats and buy a sword so they could protect themselves. God clearly didn't set up every govt made by man or he would have said differently in Hosea 8. So naturally the govt that is ordained by God must be doing as the word of God said it would right? Meaning....
They won't be a terror to good works
They will be revenger to execute wrath upon those that doeth evil
Because he is a minister of God and beareth not the sword in vain

Now this sounds very familiar... But before we get to Elijah

It means that there is no power that is not of God. So what's happened is yours and most preachers understanding of what power is has become skewed into thinking anything that resembles "power" is true power rather what power actually is, which is only of God. So no govt has any kind of power over us. No matter how much military strength you see God can destroy it in a moment.
A perceived "power" (the govt) doesn't do as an ordained power is said to do then it is of no power at all, because all power is of God. Even one man can be that power of God because they choose to do what God said, a revenger of those who do evil, and is NOT a terror to good works. Elijah does this

We see this happen in 1st Kings
When Elijah, 1 man that was full of the Holy Spirit and had faith that literally called fire down from God in heaven and he stood against an entire army by himself and destroyed the false prophets that lead the nation of Israel to worship Baal.

Elijah did justice and judgment and slew all 450 prophets of Baal and destroyed the entire response of a nation that had set up a king and princes, but not by God

But it was God that gave Elijah the power to do it.

Remember Jesus said to the pharisees that they were supposed to do judgment then called them whited sepulchers for being fake


Matthew 23:23,27 KJV
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

[27] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.


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Originally Posted by Kong
So where did the missing plane go? Where did all the people on that missing flight go? Who fired the missile you speak of?


Trump fired it.
Out his arse.

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