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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: 3togo] #7949226
09/12/23 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 3togo
Wolfie,

DT needs to know the spine for the arrows you have. At the weight you are pulling a 500 spine should probably be in the ball park. Even with 100gr inserts. But the picture APPEARS to show that the nock end of the arrow is to the left when in the target. That would indicate it is too weak of a spine. Try one arrow with a standard insert (about 15grs) and shoot it repeatedly to see if there is a difference.

Shooting a recurve or longbow LOOKS easy, but in reality it ain't.

All 400 spine. Sorry thought I said that with all the other info


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949229
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Seems odd with such a short arrow and a fairly stiff spine you are shooting right. Can you take a photo of your rest. Whats the shelf of the riser look like?

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: D.T.] #7949232
09/12/23 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by D.T.
Seems odd with such a short arrow and a fairly stiff spine you are shooting right. Can you take a photo of your rest. Whats the shelf of the riser look like?

Sure , I can take a while video of me shooting it if you'd like just tell me what you need to see and what angle


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949280
09/12/23 01:41 PM
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949295
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Where are you holding the string? Where on your fingers?

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949323
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I don't see any shelf pad or strike plate so that arrow is bouncing off hard wood. Get rid of the rubber finger things and replace with a proper nock point, get a calf hair tab to save your fingers. Nock your arrow under the nock point. You mentioned taking 50 or more shots in a session. Half a dozen good shots two or three times a day will get you a lot farther quicker. Shoot one arrow and then go get it, repeat a half dozen times. Starting out you should really be going through the blind bale routine. Shoot at 8 to 10 FEET. It develops form which at this point from what I can see in your video is somewhat lacking. Your forearm needs to be in line with the shaft. When at full draw you should be squeezing your shoulder blades together. Once you have your form then you can start bare shaft shooting to figure out what spine shafting you need.

As a rule most recurves will lose 2 1/2 to 3 pounds in draw weight per inch under their spec weight. On average a recurve shooters draw length will be 1 to 1 1/2 inches shorter than their compound draw length. So a little math tells me you could be drawing as little as 41#. Plenty enough to get a complete pass through on the rib cage of a deer using a two blade cut on contact head like a Magnus Stinger.

PM me if you have any questions. I've been shooting traditional for 60 plus years.

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949482
09/12/23 06:45 PM
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Ok been getting a lot of advice from a lot of people and think I'm getting better and able to at least hit center every few now

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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wanna Be] #7949483
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Where are you holding the string? Where on your fingers?

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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949485
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Well that ain’t the issue

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: D.T.] #7949486
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Originally Posted by D.T.
Seems odd with such a short arrow and a fairly stiff spine you are shooting right. Can you take a photo of your rest. Whats the shelf of the riser look like?

This is what it's like oh if the box but just added some Velcro to it
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949493
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Also does this arrow look like it's flying right ?
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949501
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Try that shot again. But this time cant your bow a little. Do you have any arrows with a little weaker spine
? Or a little longer will also make them a little weaker.


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: matt] #7949551
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Originally Posted by matt
Try that shot again. But this time cant your bow a little. Do you have any arrows with a little weaker spine
? Or a little longer will also make them a little weaker.

No not yet ,all my arrows for this bow are 400 spine


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949553
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Get ya a 3-under tab and go with it.

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Pirogue] #7949556
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Originally Posted by Pirogue
Get ya a 3-under tab and go with it.

Honestly don't know about tabs blush and forgot to order a glove with this bow and the arrows so had to use the finger savers because by the time I got a glove in if be going back on the boat. Kinda miffed no one withing 100mi had trad stuff in stock.will say though kinda worried about ordering a glove . I wear a women's small in work gloves so have a feeling getting a glove that will fit will be a pain eek
Would have been nice if I could have found a pice of leather to make a tab but no luck there smirk


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949586
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The top tab is a style i made that works for me. I shoot modified split which is the two fingers under on the string, index finger points straight ahead, anchor the well of my thumb and index over my cheek bone. Reason i show this photo is the bottom tab is a beater. You can make one from a scrap piece of leather in no time. Gake that god awful thing off the string. Set your nock 1/2” higher than the shelf for a start
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Looks like the velcro is an improvement. I also use beavertail for this [Linked Image]
Lots of fiddling to do with trad bows. Bareshafting is a good thing to do too. Keep experimenting. Let us know how you progress

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949593
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So took some advice from Matt and added a few more pics of Velcro to basically push my arrow over and seems to be working only 7yd (22f to be exact )but still grin
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Really wanna shoot more ....but my fingers really friggen hurt laugh guess I'll call it a night......or idk my compound looks a little lonely grin


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: D.T.] #7949596
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Originally Posted by D.T.
The top tab is a style i made that works for me. I shoot modified split which is the two fingers under on the string, index finger points straight ahead, anchor the well of my thumb and index over my cheek bone. Reason i show this photo is the bottom tab is a beater. You can make one from a scrap piece of leather in no time. Gake that god awful thing off the string. Set your nock 1/2” higher than the shelf for a start
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Looks like the velcro is an improvement. I also use beavertail for this [Linked Image]
Lots of fiddling to do with trad bows. Bareshafting is a good thing to do too. Keep experimenting. Let us know how you progress

Interesting if I can fine a piece of leather tomorrow I'll try and make one of those. Honestly the whole constant fiddling thing is perfect for me.if you give me something that works perfect automatically I'll usually either say neat and put it on the wall and no touch it again till I need it , loose interest, or wat usually happens is I try and tear it apart and modify it laugh Gotta love ADHD


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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949606
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Im the same way.

That one photo i showed is the beavertail on the rest and generally one layer does me fine. I do have one short recurve that is very temperamental and i had to push the riser out like you did. I use contact cement for the leather and i stacked some hard leather underneath until it pushed me to center. I like what you did but from personal experience, the velcro wears quickly and the way you packed it out might mash over time. Im sure youll find a solution.
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Next youll start making your own arrows. You’re screwed!

Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7949666
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Nice D. T. !


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