So what is unskilled labor? Hate to say what I make and what I actually do. Guess other than the tests required to get the job/title I could be considered “unskilled”. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to do my job, but if you don’t know what you’re doing, you could make the State and a lot of businesses unhappy, lol.

So what is considered unskilled labor?

Ive had enough fun in this thread.If any of you union bashers want to actualy have and adult conversation or debate,,let me know.Until then,,continue on with your menial labor for menial pay.BYE

Upstate denies fervently that unions support liberals, denies fervently that production in a union shop is about half that of nonunion, then says folks against unions are jealous. I quit a union job because of those things. Was too hard to look myself in the eyes when I was shaving. I did not lose any money either.

And he claims to want an adult conversation and debate. No really, he said that.

Comparably
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UAW Salaries
The average estimated annual salary, including base and bonus, at UAW is $93,720, or $45 per hour, while the estimated median salary is $101,531, or $48 per ...

Don’t listen to a thing these liars are trying to tell ya to make it seem these folks are living off crumbs….. Read it yourselves. I’m pretty sure if the “thugs” would let them cross lines or not intimidate new help, the positions at that pay scale would fill quite quickly. Like I said previously, this is just what the Democrats have wanted all along.
Their fattened up sheep will never wander far from the trough.


https://www.autonews.com/uaw-talks-2023 Here is another link for ya to get the actual data from, not the spoon fed lines from UAW to their cohorts in the media. Wages seem quite high for a line job, quoting temp workers (fill in workers for the union ones who don’t show up) initial starting wages isn’t being truthful about what the average UAW employee earns…. Quit the lies, makes ya look foolish when called out, which I’m more than happy to do BTW.

I did not read all of this thread, but logic dictates to me at least that at a 45% pay raise, they are going to make carts to expensive to sell. Its like burger flippers wanting 15 bucks minimum, no one will buy a 9 dollar burger. The alternative for the car producing companies is then more automation, employing only folks that can't be replaced by a robot. And those jobs are getting less and less by the day with the advancements happening at a fast rate these days.
Union or non union, its at the end of the day a numbers game I think.
I provide a service that is in a niche market and there are not that many of us around , so I can sell my time for a higher price than a person that stands at a stove flipping burgers. Sure I am replaceable , but its unlikely to be a robot that takes over my job in a hurry. production line jobs and similar are easy to replace even with simple machines..
I can see a optic in the robotics market in the not to distant future with vechile manufacturers being prime customers.

Back in my hometown in Germany, we had a VW plant. the folks that worked there had the best paying jobs in town as far as menial labor goes and they though that their poop don't stink a lot of times. I worked for Hammelman for a while as a service engineer. ( they made big pressure washers ) that VW plant had two of those high output pressure washers to cut the overspray paint of the frames the cars where on when they went through the paint shop. ( after the paint builds up to an inch or so, they have a problem getting the car bodies on those things and have to cut that paint off with said pressure washer ) One day one of those broke down and so I got a call to fix the thing. At the gate they did not want to let me onto the plant because I did not drive a VW. Tod the guy at the gate that all I had was a Land Rover, a AMG Mercedes and a Mitsubishi eclipse and a couple of motorbikes. and if neither of those will do to give me a shout when they change their mind. Told the folks at Hamelman the same thing and went back about my business elsewhere. It took about 2 weeks when I got a call to get out there and fix that pump ASAP as they needed those frames cleaned up of the whole works would come to a grading halt. I told them that I still did not have a VW to get on the plant with. But at that point that rule somehow went out the window and I would have made it through the gate with a horse and buggy at that point. That was all because of the arrogance that unions instilled in those people that they could just make up rules and because they are the big VW company, everyone had to dance to their tune.

So what makes management worth a nickel in these conglomerates? These people didn’t start the company they are hand picked my oldest brother retired chemical engineer and muscle car guy laughs at the stupid broad that runs GM he says she doesn’t know a thing about cars and his wife agrees and she was a chemist who worked her way up to a VP and said she only fired 2 hourly employees in her life but she sure got rid of the useless manager fat at her company
Since the bud light debacle that was caused by all you stupid consumers who don’t understand the managements message ( not out of my mouth I here this in meetings every week) should adhere and not think for yourselves and start buying since management are always right .
During Labor Day weekend we were given a 50 buck loaded card to promote our products, I conveniently bought Yuengling with mine and was pulled into the plant managers office. Like I told him we lost billions and in meetings you say this is a good thing so what’s another 50 bucks and reached into my pocket and tossed a 50 on the table and said stick it and walked out .
This was s gutsy set up by me to prove a point losing billions of dollars and 11% of our market share is wonderful because a CEO says so and he doesn’t have the gonads in a meeting to say this was avoidable bs. You guys may like being lied to but I’m not that stupid but this is how multi billion dollar companies operate and unless you have spent years working for one you don’t know a thing about the subject

I just watched Bernie Sanders on a morning show celebrating the strike and unions generally. He said they are the best way to achieve wealth redistribution.

If you are union, you are part of the socialist plan for this country. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter how you vote (or more likely recently voted). It doesn't matter what you post on Tman.

Well the auto workers don't know this yet but there Forcing the company's to move to Mexico then what you be out of a job looking . Maybe you can get a job a jiffy lube! Or Walmart auto dept. Because you guys just don't have the skills people are looking for today.

One of the only ways a working man can control anything is by voting with his wallet. I will not buy a vehicle built by a uaw worker. They won't get my money.

Don't worry, they'll see to it you can't afford to buy one.

I agree totally they will price themselves out of existence

Say what you wish but you support the teachers union when you pay your property taxes which in turn pay the teachers say what you want but I’ll guarantee you that many nonunion employees vote for Biden also and I’m a republican who’s never voted democrat and also do some research on products you purchased and see how much they donate to the democrats and you’ll see you are also indirectly supporting Bidens agenda so there’s not much way around it is there except criticism from your cry baby rear end about how others work in jobs to make a living

Nice try but that made no sense.

You're union and you work for BUD--from what I read here the beer of choice for transvestites.

Clearly a very staunch conservative.

BC say what you want it doesn’t matter to me because you are so depressed with your life and wife or whatever and your still a cry baby

68 percent of lawyers are democrats, your profession isn't looked at all that highly either.

Just sayin.

Nah. Just taking a break at my ranch. Waiting for one of my sons so we can move some cows before deer season.

Enjoying the scenery and cooler weather. And calling out hypocrisy.

Unions protect the lazy/ workers

Happy got you BC but did you start that ranch or inherit it and take care of them young men . But make one thing clear your ranch doesn’t work like these huge companies if it did you would be broke and that’s fact .

To an extent that was how it used to be prior 1998 in our company since then they fire the lazy ones for absentee problems. But working 7 days a week for 35 years and 30 years of midnights isn’t lazy .