Nope not once. Haven't been able to get them to do it yet. Infact I even voted for the last contract. Didn't loose anything, healt insurance cost and coverage stayed the same and got 4 to 4.75% raises every year. I call that good enough. Still not keeping up with inflation though.

As far as unions supporting democrats. I would be more concerned with the millions each and every one of us contribute to mutual funds controld by Blackrock and vanguard. You know the people that have billions to give to politicians and promote the egs scores and push the woke crap on business.

Ya I bet many bashers on hear have hundreds of thousands invested in their retirement funds doing more to promote and support the democrats and woke agenda than all the unions combined. . It's just easier to bury your heads in the sand and point your fingers at others. Talk about perfect candidates to be democrats.

You are definitely not lazy. But I thought unions were supposed to get rid of crappy working conditions like that.

Preach!

If your CEO and company are boasting of billion dollar profits every quarter and the employee is stuck making the same thing they’ve made their entire career, why shouldn’t they ask for more?

I think the better question is....

In exchange for more money, what additional value can the employee provide ?

If he can't provide more value to the employer then he isn't worth more money.

If he is just tightening the same bolt that he was tightening ten years ago...........what is his true value ?

Trap dog the work is there and I’m very well compensated for my effort point is it’s the life I got it worked out for me. This business is a 7 day operation you just can’t turn the process off on the weekends and holidays it’s the nature of the beast so to say

If tightening that bolt has created that much profit, then it really doesn’t matter. I think what they’re asking is a little exuberant, but start high because the company will start low and hopefully they meet somewhere in the middle.

I think far more profit was created by the engineers, designers, marketing, and shareholder capital than a guy tightening a bolt. That can be and is being done more & more by automation. That word AUTO-mation is sort of ironic in this context.

If the union's position is that it isn't fair that the company makes so much money.........then wouldn't it make more sense to ask for shares of the company stock instead of higher wages. Certainly would be more tax efficient than a higher wage.

But they won't do that because they know that eventually they will destroy the company with the help of the government.

White 17 I respect your opinion but I have to say what value did the high ups in ABInbev create with the bud light debacle because they still have their jobs. As far as running equipment why aren’t the company people on the line at the striking plants nothing to it from what Gus says

Funny thing about that is the engineers take proven engines and parts and change them and make inferior products that are junk. Look at all the crap cars today compared to 20 years ago. I think they are over paid...let's enginamere a van or suv where you have to take off the manifold just to change the spark plugs. STOOOOPID. What idiot came up with that. (Spelling errors on purpose)

You'll get no argument from me about that...but I suspect that is driven by the bean counters rather than a choice of the engineer

The company's make more money then the employees because their money goes back into thr plant upgrading machines, lights,air conditioning and what ever they need to operate. The employees only care about their package that Detroit auto gave them.

You are right sir but what about the loss of 11% market share and thirty billion dollars in sales and value ? What should be done to the ones that caused this ? I’m talking bud light not auto manufacturers

As far as automation is concerned it’s a good thing because you can’t do business like it’s 30 years ago , productivity is like this 30 years ago 14000 case of canned beer per shift with people everywhere was thought great now it’s 35000 per shift with a handful

We aren't talking about the company profits. We are talking salaries and benefits of management and non-management. The CEO isn't putting his salary back into the plant.

I might be wrong but “profits” is after everything is said and done. That’s not bill paying money or changing light bulb money, or even adding Freon to the AC…that’s money leftover after all that has been done.

Exactly. That is why I said above.....if the employee can't add value then he doesn't deserve more money. Productivity is the key metric

White I have a mechanic buddy 62 self taught and very successful and he cusses the automotive engineers everyday lol like he says they design but if they also had to repair the design would be a lot different lol

I have done the same thing at 40 below and 20 miles from home trying to repair the recoil starter on my snowmachine !!