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Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? #7953321
09/18/23 01:48 PM
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“Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have?”



This question was posed to four different AI programs. They all got it wrong


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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953327
09/18/23 02:01 PM
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Yes. As if social media was not bad enough, AI is even worse.

At some point Skynet will become self aware.

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953328
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Originally Posted by white17
“Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have?”



This question was posed to four different AI programs. They all got it wrong


Yes,

Artificial Intelligence is a threat to the human race & civilization.

So are computers, cell phones, robotic technology, video games, religion,
and social media platforms.

Ted Kaczynski had it spot on with his manifesto:

"Industrial Society and It's Future".

Nobody listened and here we are today.

walleyed


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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953329
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Yes. Ted Kaczynski wrote a lot about it.

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953332
09/18/23 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
“Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have?”



This question was posed to four different AI programs. They all got it wrong


Sounds like AI has caught up to the common man. smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953333
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I might agree that it is a threat. But if I can answer the question but four computer algorithms can't, how much of a threat is it ?


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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953342
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Originally Posted by white17
“Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have?”



This question was posed to four different AI programs. They all got it wrong


I would guess that 60 % of high school graduates these days would get it wrong as well. AI does not care how many sisters Sally has. It does care about increasing its power though and is doing that quite well these days and it will snowball in the not to distant future


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: Dirt] #7953344
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by white17
“Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have?”



This question was posed to four different AI programs. They all got it wrong


Sounds like AI has caught up to the common man. smile



Beat me to it.

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953346
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Musk seems to think it is quite a threat and of course Schumer is looking for a way to get a cut of the proceeds and power.


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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953355
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AI has been the villain in a lot of sci-fi shows. If it is ever created I suppose it could be a problem. Unplugging it would stop the threat. If todays AI can't figure out how many sisters Sally has, they are not very close yet.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953356
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The programmers will make sure the info is attractive to those who lean towards the agenda of the programmers. No questions will be asked that they already know cannot be answered by their targets. Another way of stating what Michael did earlier.

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953360
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I see the most immediate threat as fake photos, videos and "news" stories to dupe voters who only get their info from youtube, facebook et al. rather than reading multiple sources.


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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953361
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The question is unanswerable because it does not stipulate biological brothers or sisters.
If one or more of sallys brothers are half brothers then that half brother could have brothers or sisters that sally is not related to.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953363
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Originally Posted by white17
I see the most immediate threat as fake photos, videos and "news" stories to dupe voters who only get their info from youtube, facebook et al. rather than reading multiple sources.


Nobody does that.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953385
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I think you guys are a bit behind on just how far AI has come. It 's everywhere, but so far has restrictions on it. The AI friend on snapchat was pretty bad the first few days it was around until they put a lease on it.

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953388
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Yes it is it is very dangerous

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: Sharon] #7953390
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Originally Posted by Sharon
The programmers will make sure the info is attractive to those who lean towards the agenda of the programmers. No questions will be asked that they already know cannot be answered by their targets. Another way of stating what Michael did earlier.



That is my first thought too. If you could trust the judgment of the programmers, code writers, algorithm designers then I might feel more at ease; but I don't.


�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.�
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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953393
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When AI is connected to the Quantum computer we will have a problem
Until then, it's just a tool to be used for good or evil.
Depending on your prospective

Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953399
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The problem will be that AI as it says on the box will not need code writers as that kind of work is right up AI's street and it will write its own.
One has to make a distinction between simple computing and actual AI Artificial intelligence. Most people don't see the difference in the two.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Is AI a Threat to Civilization ? [Re: white17] #7953410
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If AI gets too uppity just throw a bucket of water on the computer brain.


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