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? For the shot shell reloaders #7957719
09/24/23 10:02 PM
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What’s the difference in Lawrence shot and the eagle shot brand ? It’s been five years since I bought any but I’m going to start back reloading again and noticed around $22.00 difference between the two .

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7957725
09/24/23 10:08 PM
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Biggest difference is if it is hardened shot. Eagle is not if I remember correctly. If you are just shooting Clays doesn’t matter much. If you are actually shooting game, I like the hardened shot, but last I bought was only a couple bucks a bag more.

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Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7957829
09/25/23 06:19 AM
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Thanks , That’s what I thought but wasn’t for sure. The last time I bought shot it was around $30. 00 a bag , I was looking last night and one was $82.99 and the other was $ 59.99 I didn’t remember them being that at expensive. I knew it was hard to find .

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7957856
09/25/23 07:38 AM
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If they are both Magnum then they are both hardened. With that being said I still think lawrence is harder and performs better. The lawrence has a nice coating on it that seems to feed through my MEC 600JR better than the eagle. You should be able to do better than 82.99 but the $30.00 a bag days are gone unfortunately frown

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7957883
09/25/23 08:16 AM
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The three four brands that are available around here are Lawrence, West Coast, Spartan, and Eagle. Eagle being the most common. Average cost for all of them is $56 at the moment. This is for magnum (hard shot, small amounts of antimony is alloyed in). Chilled is the soft stuff. My preferred manufacturer is Spartan. It's clean, smooth, well coated with graphite, and very consistent in size. Lawrence and West Coast are comparable. Their sizing is not quite as good being off by a thousandth or two which in the grand scheme of things is a big DMS. The Eagle is a little wacky. Dump a couple ounces into a paper plate and start looking closely and measuring. Eagle runs under size by several thousandths. You will also find instances of two and three pellets welded together or misshaped (teardrop shapes). Eagle Magnum is in fact hard, possibly the hardest of the bunch. It consistently drops light out of my presses. Granted not by much but still light. Again, DMS. I use my reloads for practice, Sporting Clays, FITASC, and American Field Sporting. For competition, registered targets, I use factory ammo. Most often Fiocchi Crusher and/or Little Rhino. Having said all this I do use the Eagle product. For all its shortcomings it does work and it is the most available and a dollar or two cheaper. My son and I shoot a lot of shells in a week, two to three cases, sometimes more, almost never less. All our 12ga loads are one ounce at 1250fps.

When I started reloading shot shells 59 years ago, if I remember correctly, shot was about $2.50 a 25 pound bag. I did my loading with a Lee whack-a-mole setup on the kitchen floor.

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7957948
09/25/23 10:01 AM
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What about getting Down Range Duster wads? I can't seem to find many folks carrying them. Claybusters are all over but I have difficulty finding Dusters

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7958003
09/25/23 11:53 AM
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Down Range wads don't seem to be available around here. The kid and I use ClayBusters. I use the Remington TGT-12 clone in Remington hulls. My son uses the Federal 12SO clone in Fiocchi hulls. Our recipes work very well for us. We do put our loads thru the chronograph when we open a fresh keg of powder. We get 3 or 4 loads out of a hull and then they go in the trash. The crimps start degrading which causes a degradation in ignition. Graf's seems to carry the Down Range stuff and they are located in Mexico, Missouri.

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7958075
09/25/23 01:33 PM
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We are just starting to reload this year. Mainly got into it for 410 but now have all gauges. What powder you running in 12? We currently are using 700x. Have some Clays and Titegroup, just havent developed a load yet.

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7958167
09/25/23 03:46 PM
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At present I'm using Accurate Nitro 100 NF. My son uses Winchester WST. I no longer give out charge weights. They work really well in my guns. Maybe not so well in yours. 700X is a good powder just expensive as its one pound can really weighs 14 ounces. It can be gotten in 4 and 8 pound jugs.

Re: ? For the shot shell reloaders [Re: Tommie] #7958912
09/26/23 05:27 PM
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The cheaper stuff may be older stock.


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