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Aspen #7966438
10/07/23 01:04 PM
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What is it about aspen? The bull elk are destroying my aspen and ignoring the alder and cottonwood. Could it be smell or something else? The whitetails usually hit the alders. I have a lot of alder and cottonwood not so much of the aspen.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966591
10/07/23 06:03 PM
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Yep, not sure what it is but the elk have destroyed all the ones I have transplanted in an area I want them to grow. I seen some of what they have done in just the last few days. Most 2 inch in diameter 7 foot trees are just stubs. I just seen them today and all I can do is keep planting.

Not sure why they like them, but the mule deer raise h*LL with them too.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966629
10/07/23 07:39 PM
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It’s the smell and the taste.

Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966640
10/07/23 07:56 PM
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It’s because you wanted those trees, if it’d be some worthless bush it’d never be touched.

Re: Aspen [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7966657
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
It’s because you wanted those trees, if it’d be some worthless bush it’d never be touched.

That is about right!!! They have absolutely destroyed them. Been seeing some big bulls there now.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966690
10/07/23 09:10 PM
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Beaver love aspen also.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966702
10/07/23 09:25 PM
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Aspen west of the Mississippi...Poplar East of The Mississippi.....they are one in the same. AKA Beaver Candy


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966911
10/08/23 09:25 AM
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Our moose browse heavily on cottonwood in the winter. The elk thrashing them in dominence displays during the rut is destroying them at this time of year. Thanks to all that responded.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7966933
10/08/23 10:10 AM
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We have to fence everything that we want to grow. Until the trees have thick mature bark on them the elk will kill every one. Goes with the territory I reckon.


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Re: Aspen [Re: Tatiana] #7966970
10/08/23 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tatiana
A visiting forest scientist from Sweden was surprised that aspen plays the key role in forest regeneration in old-stand forests in boreal West Siberia which are almost purely coniferous at the peak of their development, when I showed him all the various stages of post-fire succession, and a canopy of tall aspens over young conifer regrowth. In Scandinavia, moose are overabundant and they destroy the majority of aspen root sprouts after fires and clear-cuts, so their forests regenerate via alternative community cycles (in the rare cases where natural regeneration is allowed).

Aspen is the favorite food of beaver, moose and bunnies here. They can switch to birch, willows, or bird cherry but only after they have destroyed all aspens.

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Originally Posted by arcticotter
It’s the smell and the taste.


As far as I know, it's also the electrolytes which are important to moose in the winter. Aspen bark is rich in minerals compared to most other common trees. Some lichens which normally only grow on calcareous rocks will also grow on aspen bark. But ultimately it just probably tastes good to them.



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Re: Aspen [Re: Elkguy] #7966972
10/08/23 10:50 AM
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^ Yep. I don't have them year around on my place but have them here nevertheless. Moose I see often and sign of them year around and they don't help maters either.

I would rather have them here and kill the trees then not having them here, like you said, part of the territory.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7967022
10/08/23 12:54 PM
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I love having them just wish they would choose the cottonwoods.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7967050
10/08/23 01:47 PM
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Just curious if aspen are nitrogen fixers, like alders?


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7967539
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here we cut one aspen, and 1200 shoots are put off starting new trees. they come up as thick as dog hair.

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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
here we cut one aspen, and 1200 shoots are put off starting new trees. they come up as thick as dog hair.

Yep, they colonize but I'm having problems for them doing that. With large mature tree that is cut down they seem to start new life like you said. I'm just having a hard time getting them to take and the elk, moose and deer just raise heck with them.


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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7967611
10/09/23 07:41 AM
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I was told by a old Indian that cow moose eat the aspen bark to settle their stomachs when in calf. Seems logical to me. It also seems that most of the scrapes I've seen is on the south side of the tree. Elk thrash them just because they're elk and like to sharpen their horns. Won't even get started on a beaver. Lol. Those buggers will take a beautiful poplar bush and ruin it.

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In my opinion, Aspen is the most beneficial tree in my woods for whitetail, I have bur oaks and a plethora of other trees and I would take Aspen (if managed for young successional growth) over oaks any day. Here is a clearcut that was summer logged last year so the growth is slightly retarded in contrast to a winter cut when all the energy is stored in the root system. Every tree will send up clones as shoots and the browse is irresistible for whitetails. I bow hunted the edge between two food plots that are in corn this weekend- I had 11 bucks and does in the Aspen and they were working their way toward the corn at dusk. You can see the alder shear in the distance that was sheared the previous year to the Aspen clearcut. My border edge is in oats and clover mixes, corn, alder and they seem to choose the Aspen first.

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Re: Aspen [Re: Norwestalta] #7967623
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Originally Posted by Norwestalta
I was told by a old Indian that cow moose eat the aspen bark to settle their stomachs when in calf. Seems logical to me. It also seems that most of the scrapes I've seen is on the south side of the tree. Elk thrash them just because they're elk and like to sharpen their horns. Won't even get started on a beaver. Lol. Those buggers will take a beautiful poplar bush and ruin it.

That is a good observation. I agree with beaver they will destroy every aspen in sight. Luckly I'm about a quarter mile from river where I'm trying to get them started and they haven't traveled there yet.


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Re: Aspen [Re: snowy] #7967641
10/09/23 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by snowy
Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
It’s because you wanted those trees, if it’d be some worthless bush it’d never be touched.

That is about right!!! They have absolutely destroyed them. Been seeing some big bulls there now.

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Re: Aspen [Re: SundanceMtnMan] #7967823
10/09/23 01:41 PM
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As I understand it, Aspen groves are actually one plant, with a lot of root shoots.


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