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union leader #7972181
10/15/23 12:58 PM
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Shawn Fain leader of auto workers union a Bernie Sanders follower and socialist democrat so called fighter for the working man and don't forget against the rich made so much last year he is in the top 5% of earners in the U S .I know he works so hard putting non union people out of work he deserves it.

Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972183
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If you put monthly dues into a mutual fund every month for thirty years on an 8% return, that's a lot of money a member is giving away for the right to work in that union. No thanks. I'll keep that money for myself and work non union........it's a facade that any person or party is for the working man. We've had both in office over the years and we are worse off today than ever. Wake up people.......ps. I was a teamster in my younger years.


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Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972184
10/15/23 01:02 PM
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Re: union leader [Re: WI Outdoors] #7972198
10/15/23 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mando
If you put monthly dues into a mutual fund every month for thirty years on an 8% return, that's a lot of money a member is giving away for the right to work in that union. No thanks. I'll keep that money for myself and work non union........it's a facade that any person or party is for the working man. We've had both in office over the years and we are worse off today than ever. Wake up people.......ps. I was a teamster in my younger years.



Are you breaking over 100k a year ? Have better health insurance and retirement than everyone else you know?
Well I do. Been over 100 since the first week of Oct could have been in Sept. Enjoying some of my 4 weeks paid vacation now.

Those dues are a less than a tank of gas. As far as investing if you make enough you can max out your 401 and I enjoy that 6% match as well. It's a good gig. I can't find anything as close and have been looking 6 years so I can not have to be 127 miles from home to work.

Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972202
10/15/23 01:46 PM
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Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972204
10/15/23 01:53 PM
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Union - like joining the mob


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Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972229
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That union wants less work for its members.

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That union wants 40% raise and a 32 hour week.

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Originally Posted by charles
That union wants 40% raise and a 32 hour week.



If they get that trucks will be 150k or more!!

Re: union leader [Re: Guss] #7972322
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Originally Posted by Guss
Originally Posted by charles
That union wants 40% raise and a 32 hour week.



If they get that trucks will be 150k or more a thing of the past!!


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Re: union leader [Re: Providence Farm] #7972354
10/15/23 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Mando
If you put monthly dues into a mutual fund every month for thirty years on an 8% return, that's a lot of money a member is giving away for the right to work in that union. No thanks. I'll keep that money for myself and work non union........it's a facade that any person or party is for the working man. We've had both in office over the years and we are worse off today than ever. Wake up people.......ps. I was a teamster in my younger years.



Are you breaking over 100k a year ? Have better health insurance and retirement than everyone else you know?
Well I do. Been over 100 since the first week of Oct could have been in Sept. Enjoying some of my 4 weeks paid vacation now.

Those dues are a less than a tank of gas. As far as investing if you make enough you can max out your 401 and I enjoy that 6% match as well. It's a good gig. I can't find anything as close and have been looking 6 years so I can not have to be 127 miles from home to work.

I am, and normally don't work more than 40 hours a week. Non union.
I know you've been looking for something closer to home, and I remember you almost took one but it didn't pencil out for you. Keep looking, eventually the right opportunity will come along, and it may not be a union job when it does.

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Trap dog I have worked both union and non union jobs in my life. Both have their individual issues and each job or business does as well. I would take any job union or non it it penciled out and got me home daily. But it looms like most likely i will end up quitring working days off. Only working doubles (16hrs) on days I work. That will have me working 5 months a year( 14 out of 28 scedual and 4 weeks vacation) and would give me mid 80s and continuing to build pension, and keep my good benefits and will still make 30k more than most of the jobs i have been offered around home.
I do have to say my benefits pay and conditions have generally been better on my union jobs.

Last edited by Providence Farm; 10/16/23 09:13 AM. Reason: Was near asslep when posting last night and didn't finish my thoughts.
Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972611
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Benefits are a plus 9 weeks paid vacation, pension , 401k and quarterly bonuses, bonuses and 401 k are not contractual they are extra perks from the company.

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Re: union leader [Re: rex123] #7972638
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The ford plant that makes the f150 is on strike and that's there right but in a few days people that aren't in the union that work jobs as support will be put out of work so these crybabies can get there demands .Does that seem right?

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Originally Posted by rex123
The ford plant that makes the f150 is on strike and that's there right but in a few days people that aren't in the union that work jobs as support will be put out of work so these crybabies can get there demands .Does that seem right?

Talked to providence farm who makes the sheet aluminum that feeds are can plants business is way down , also bottle plants are idle do to the stupid tranny bs ABinbev pulled in April that doesn’t seem right either

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Originally Posted by jalstat
Originally Posted by rex123
The ford plant that makes the f150 is on strike and that's there right but in a few days people that aren't in the union that work jobs as support will be put out of work so these crybabies can get there demands .Does that seem right?

Talked to providence farm who makes the sheet aluminum that feeds are can plants business is way down , also bottle plants are idle do to the stupid tranny bs ABinbev pulled in April that doesn’t seem right either



Yep, our money making 24 7 lines have had all ot cut out and some reduced to 32 hr weeks at my plant. It's a direct result of inbev Trans promotion killing their sales. So sells are down, don't need as many cans, orders get canceled, my plants volume drops off millions of pounds. Hundreds in my plant get their hours cut, trucking gets reduced comming and going to my plant, all of our suppliers get cuts and that's just my plant. All because of management poor decisions at one of our big customer plants.

Yes, the cry baby unions are the devil. O wait thar was a bunch of woke management pushing an agenda.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm



Yes, the cry baby unions are the devil. O wait thar was a bunch of woke management pushing an agenda.




Yet those same unions endorse the left wing political loonies PUSHING the woke agenda, same as Larry Fink, etc, forcing management to endorse same agenda to maintain political favor, financial incentives, ESG scores, etc


Funny how that works, ain't it?

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Tesla’s giga press is literally crushing the traditional automakers,literally.

Those high paying auto jobs are going to be gone soon

The union is shooting itself in the foot

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