If you’re happy, keep doing you. If not change it. Not really anything to argue about there,

Unions are the cause of all the non union peoples problems and are lazy turds haven't you heard. Funny how pathetic the non union Ironworkkers I saw were. But that to much to get into. Sure was a lot of mone made going back and fixing all the mistakes and poor welding that didn't pass inspection though.


Then you have some that one min plain high vehicle prices on labor cost then admit the price is the same when made in Mexico with lowered cost and poor quality. Talking out both sides of their mouth.

I guess I was wrong. lol

Well said

Relax man. Nobody hates you.......do you think only unions pay good money? Thats simply not true.

Mando we know other places pay good money but PF and myself never care what other people do for a living but we get attacked for what we do . If it works for you I’m happy , what’s worked for me is not for everyone but it’s been a good gig for me , but 7 days a week and holidays are not for everyone but we’ve got a job to do and do it thats all there is to it.
I know nothing about the auto workers because it’s not my concern but I will say there are no positives in a strike only negatives but sometimes I guess it’s deemed necessary

The union for the auto workers are putting selfsame out of work with their demands.

They do appear excessive but I also don't know the details just news reports.

I would greatly prefer to see them strike over the multi years to top out on pay and being a temp for 5 to 7 years .

But that is also self serving becuse if those things were addressed than I would have been working at ford's truck plant 6 years ago. But as it was offered I had to decline the offer of employment.

Union or not I care less nothing is close to my current job in pay and benefits or I would not be traveling so far and being away from home. Not even the other union jobs seemed to be close. I left union Ironwork after 7 years for my current job pay on the hour was less but the constancy of steady work and benefits was better foe me. I also have only had 2 years in 17 that I have not made at least 20 to 60 k more than my best year iron working. And the years I had lower year end earnings were due to me being off work from injury or sickness for 4 or 5 months.
I honestly don't know how family's get by on what the local jobs pay.

Being a UAW member I’ve refrained from replying on this thread or the previous ones on the subject, however after seeing PF’s post where he said that it seems excessive but doesn’t know the details I’d like to try and clear up some of the obvious confusion.
1. The 32 hour work week is nothing that we will ever get or really even want, it was brought to the table to try and address the fact that we get forced in 3 out of 4 weekends a month. You know negotiating.
2. 40% pay increase again something we won’t get however we’re trying to get as much as we can since we’ve basically gave up raises during the big recession to do our part in keeping the company afloat. However since then they’ve had record profits with the big wigs getting raises hand over fist! Again negotiating.
3. To your concern PF we are trying to get the tier system done away with and also temporary workers not getting full pay or benefits for years! We want a new employee after the 90 day probationary period to be put on full time.

By the way I work Skilled trades at a GM casting plant as a Machine Repairman and I would invite anyone who thinks they could train monkeys to do my job to come on in and fill out an application we’re hiring!

Thanks for your input J Harrell good to hear from someone who works there

You're welcome jalstat!

And also the ones that said the price is driven by the consumer you are spot on! If I told you what the company's have in a vehicle after every bill is paid it would blow your mind!

So yea it wouldn't hurt them to spread a little bit of the wealth to the one's that do the actual labor!

So should a wage be set off of profit or skill set? Your comment sounds socialist.

It would be nice of they had 90 day direct hire and got rid of the tier system. The tire system is the best union busting move there is. We have it at my plant. I'm the last group that has 30 and out. Each year more guys with it are retiring. Won't be long before there are more without than with. At that point they will gladly vote it away from me. ( it the sell out didn't rob me of it still not settled)

Point being I would gladly and proudly work for the Ford plant but as it stands now tha would be way to big a step backwards for my family. I have got to say when I saw the pool of potential people that were testing when I did I was hoping I would not end up working with 90% of them.

The advertisement I saw said 90 days direct hire. I that that was different maybe the changed the process. So went and did the testing. Yet when they called with an offer it was for a temp position. That was on a Tues and they wanted me at work the following Monday. Lady had no other info. So I declined politely.

Our wages are based on skill set, I’m in skilled trades so my wages are higher than a non skilled position.
I was just making a blanket statement to share the wealth with the ones that actually do the work versus the ones that set in an air conditioned office.
And no I’m a far right leaning conservative!

I have to ask what is you skill??

If you read the post you would know he’s a machine repairman in the cast plant . So Gus what is your skill that you are so underpaid for?

I didn't offer like he did, I was just interested that's all.

Well here’s mine QA analyst micro biology lab Anheuser Busch so I do all microbiology testing to keep bad product from the consumer

Hes too embarrassed to say,,,but we know its not reading comprehension.

I bet he didn't vote for Biden like you did.