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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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I can't answer your question but I know a lot of old timers claim if you beat on an apple tree trunk it stresses the tree and it goes into "survival mode" and will produce a bigger crop. This may be similar to the oak's being drought stressed. 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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It is a sign from God,,,,,The End is Near 
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Yes, it is true of most fruiting plants.  I learned it in college from one of my botany professors and we would intentionally stress plants to induce certain behaviors.  Growth habits of plants can be altered in many ways and God has designed His creation to respond to the stresses that occur.  Where they get the energy - well I would say photosynthesis of course........not sure of the exact triggers that control mast productions but I am sure a plant physiologist would have more in depth knowledge.
 In some tree work - we would inject a certain chemical to reduce fruiting in landscrape trees like sweetgums as folks tend not to enjoy stepping on the balls with bare feet.........
Sure seems like that around here too. Extreme drought this year. Never seen so many acorns. Deer in the yard almost every day gorging themselves. 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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dry here alsoapple and plumb tree lost branches from the weight of all the fruit
 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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Old timers said it means it’s gonna be a long cold winter.  Guess we’ll see. 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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Old timers said it means it’s gonna be a long cold winter.  Guess we’ll see.Makes sense,,,,, God provides 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
[Re: Vinke]
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dry here alsoapple and plumb tree lost branches from the weight of all the fruit
Apple trees rely on blossoms which occurred in the early spring before the drought began, so it seems like that wouldn't relate. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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dry here alsoapple and plumb tree lost branches from the weight of all the fruit
Apple trees rely on blossoms which occurred in the early spring before the drought began, so it seems like that wouldn't relate. Blossoms require water to produce healthy  fruit was my understanding  
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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Yes, it is true of most fruiting plants.  I learned it in college from one of my botany professors and we would intentionally stress plants to induce certain behaviors.  Growth habits of plants can be altered in many ways and God has designed His creation to respond to the stresses that occur.  Where they get the energy - well I would say photosynthesis of course........not sure of the exact triggers that control mast productions but I am sure a plant physiologist would have more in depth knowledge.
 In some tree work - we would inject a certain chemical to reduce fruiting in landscrape trees like sweetgums as folks tend not to enjoy stepping on the balls with bare feet.........
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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Me neither but I read that it's all about pollination including wind and insect activity. 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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I AM a retired forester!
 Many species of trees respond to various types of stress (including drought...) by producing more "seed."  That would be cones for coniferous species and mast (acorns) for oaks.
 
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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I AM a retired forester!
 Many species of trees respond to various types of stress (including drought...) by producing more "seed."  That would be cones for coniferous species and mast (acorns) for oaks.
 
 Pete
That's what I needed to hear, but it's only part of the issue. Where do they get the "energy" to produce more seed? If it's a drought, or other kind of stress, they are already lacking resources, so where do they get the resources to produce more seed? They must rob it from some other area... leaves, branches, bark, growth, etc. ? |  |  |  
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|  Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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I AM a retired forester!
 Many species of trees respond to various types of stress (including drought...) by producing more "seed."  That would be cones for coniferous species and mast (acorns) for oaks.
 
 Pete
That's what I needed to hear, but it's only part of the issue. Where do they get the "energy" to produce more seed? If it's a drought, or other kind of stress, they are already lacking resources, so where do they get the resources to produce more seed? They must rob it from some other area... leaves, branches, bark, growth, etc. ?Good question. My understanding is that some trees have a "reserve storage battery" type of system where that comes from. Whether to get them through long term stressors or a boost to put on seed when the tree is threatened. But to be honest I don't know the biology of it all or if my understanding is even correct. Just some reading up on pecans and why they are alternate bearers and how a heavy crop year can drain them down so they may not bear well for the next two or even three years. 
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