Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/18/23 05:32 PM
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Why does it seem that the Walnut Trees produce every year when they are growing alongside a field oryard but not as regular in deeper woods?
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/18/23 08:06 PM
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Been covered a lot on the news and papers around here. Here is TV 7 Wausau's write up.
WAUSAU, Wis. (WSAW) - If you’ve been outside recently, there’s a high chance you’ve seen a lot of acorns lying around.
If it seems like there’s been more than in previous years, you’re not nutty, but there’s a reason for that. Every two to five years, oak trees go through what’s called a bumper crop. That’s when the trees produce way more acorns than in other years. While they may be annoying, they do have a positive effect on nature.
“Deer, bear, turkeys, squirrels will eat those acorns. It’s good for the environmental conditions of the tree, and it produces baby trees. So if you get enough acorns every year, some of them will escape the wildlife,” said Tom Lovlien, Forest Administrator at Wausau and Marathon County Parks, Recreation & Forestry.
In a typical year, a healthy oak tree produces around 2,000 acorns. In a mast year, which is what some oak trees are experiencing now, they can produce a whopping 10,000 acorns.
“If you have a large crop of acorns on your lawn, you might want to pick those up, because it will potentially have an effect on your grass,” said Lovlien. “If you’re going out barefoot you’re going to feel those on your feet, so I’d put some shoes on.”
Due to the fact that last fall was quite wet and spring was dry, Lovlien said the seeds germinated and produced more acorns. As far as winter is concerned, some people believe this overabundance of acorns means a harsh winter is on its way.
“What it means is the tree is just producing a higher than usual mass crop of acorns. It doesn’t really have any correlation,” said Lovlien.
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/18/23 08:30 PM
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I'm a retired forester.
it is generally true that [partially] stressed trees tend to produce more seed than average years. But there are so many variables that *I* haven't seen much more than anecdotal "evidence".
Re: the "energy" to produce the seed in a stressed condition...if I recall my classes {from LONG ago!}; I believe trees store carbohydrate in their root systems, for the spring leaf-out. I'm guessing some of those reserves are used for seed production, if the trees are triggered into DNA survival-mode.
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/18/23 08:53 PM
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I'm a retired forester.
it is generally true that [partially] stressed trees tend to produce more seed than average years. But there are so many variables that *I* haven't seen much more than anecdotal "evidence".
Re: the "energy" to produce the seed in a stressed condition...if I recall my classes {from LONG ago!}; I believe trees store carbohydrate in their root systems, for the spring leaf-out. I'm guessing some of those reserves are used for seed production, if the trees are triggered into DNA survival-mode. I’ve heard the same message in college. I’m wondering if the prior year was bad, the tree begins preparing for more seed production the next year? Maybe tight growth rings indicate bad years and more seed production?
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/18/23 10:57 PM
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Our oak trees here are pretty drought tolerant. I think large acorn crops here are more dependent on good spring moisture when the tree is flowering and very little wind.
Bad winds in the spring here from thunderstorms blow the catkins off making less pollination and make less of a crop.
Even in very dry summers here, acorn production is pretty good so long as we did not get severe storms during the blooming season.
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/19/23 08:02 AM
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My back ground is forestry. Stress due to drought does 2 things to a tree. Protect life and proliferate. Tree roots will grow faster seeking moister spreading farther and deeper. This also the triggers seed. production.
Trees actually have lots of stored energy. A mature tree can defoliate one time and re leaf in the same year. Example late frost or herbicide can be a cause of this. Trees are amazing. All of nature is amazing. Survival instinct is embedded in all living things. Darwin’s Theory. Survival of the fittest. Evolution.
Yet we are supposed to believe that a half a degree of average temperature change is going to upset nature, and we are all going to die.
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Re: Any foresters on here that know about oaks?
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10/19/23 04:43 PM
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Trees are amazing. All of nature is amazing. Survival instinct is embedded in all living things. Darwin’s Theory. Survival of the fittest. Evolution. Yet we are supposed to believe that a half a degree of average temperature change is going to upset nature, and we are all going to die. I lost out on my last promotion because of my big mouth. We had a BIG meeting (hundreds of professionals) and a guest speaker on (you guessed it)...Climate Change. The speaker went on and on about all of the current theories and proposed mitigation strategies, including "Assisted Migration". That means taking southern trees (southern oaks, for instance) and planting them up north ahead of the catastrophic changes coming. I couldn't take it. At the question and answer period, I asked him how he intended to keep them from freezing their nuts off until the climate actually changes. Got a GREAT bid laugh from the audience. The powers that be didn't appreciate it. They had long memories!
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