Re: Banished!
[Re: elkaholic]
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10/22/23 07:58 PM
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white marlin
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The NTA might have its bylaws and such but there is still a 1st Ammendment right to free speech. The NTA can NOT get around that no matter what their silly one sided rules say! That applies to the government. Not an org or individuals. doesn't [REALLY] apply to .gov, either. when .gov "suggests" to big private platforms that they "might want to consider" censoring some opinions, well... it's kinda like Fast Eddy saying to a shopkeeper "You have real nice kneecaps there. Be a real SHAME if something happened to 'em"
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Re: Banished!
[Re: Leary Sink]
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10/22/23 08:04 PM
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Steven 49er
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The NTA might have its bylaws and such but there is still a 1st Ammendment right to free speech. The NTA can NOT get around that no matter what their silly one sided rules say! Larry, that might be true but…......an organization has options. First they can kick you out, secondly the can send you a cease and desist order with the threat of litigation if you don't step in line. Who's going to fight that unless they're wealthy
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Banished!
[Re: Leary Sink]
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10/22/23 08:45 PM
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The NTA might have its bylaws and such but there is still a 1st Ammendment right to free speech. The NTA can NOT get around that no matter what their silly one sided rules say! Civil courts say otherwise. This goes to anyone.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/22/23 08:48 PM
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huntrap247
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huntrap247, just curious but who did you send your original email to? The office? Everyone on the NTA contact page lol. Only one I got a response from.
Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/22/23 09:57 PM
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Ken Smith
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I just rejoined the NTA mainly for the publication. Sorry to hear about this fiasco. Hope y'all get it worked out.
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Banished!
[Re: Jtrapper]
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10/22/23 10:16 PM
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Preacherman Les
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Maybe now NTA can rig their election's like they want so no one can even run unless they are a past or current officer, that should ensure they can keep total control over their little universe and ensure NOTHING ever changes, just keep doing the same ol dumb stuff expecting a different result. Every 20 years they have to blow off both feet and wonder why the place can't garner the support of at least 50 percent of the trappers.
1984 Don Hoyt fiasco
2004 Dave Sollman/Dave Wills fiacso
2023 this fiasco.
Maybe they can limp along another 20 years and have another fiasco if there's still enough of anything left of the place to even have a fiasco. !
I don't want to get this off-track but 1984 was a long time ago. Care to refresh what the "Don Hoyt fiasco" was? I am drawing a blank trying to remember, but that happens a lot these days.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: Preacherman Les]
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10/22/23 10:29 PM
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Buck (Zandra)
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I don't want to get this off-track but 1984 was a long time ago. Care to refresh what the "Don Hoyt fiasco" was? I am drawing a blank trying to remember, but that happens a lot these days.[/quote] After 40 years it would be interesting to hear just what took place.Fur prices were high,the NTA was growing,Don Hoyt was president and won re election.Then in the following months to come it was one thing after another on charges leveled against him and then,he was gone.Never an explanation on what happened or why,they just got rid of him.Apparently the membership didn't need to know what happened to him or why
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 07:24 AM
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Hmmmm, we’ll see how this plays out. Was looking forward to Sioux Falls, coulda made a week round trip out of it …..Minnesota has a pretty big convention.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 08:19 AM
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huntrap247
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Response from John Daniel
Not sure what letter your talking about But I see the office manager is cc'd on this email so Im sure your wish will be carried out
Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: huntrap247]
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10/23/23 10:14 AM
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Response from John Daniel
Not sure what letter your talking about But I see the office manager is cc'd on this email so Im sure your wish will be carried out What was your wish?
Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 10:55 AM
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huntrap247
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Response from John Daniel
Not sure what letter your talking about But I see the office manager is cc'd on this email so Im sure your wish will be carried out What was your wish? The email I sent; To whom it may concern;
It has come to my attention that you have expelled a member for there speaking out about the truth as they saw on another platform.
I saw the letter.
This is how far we have fallen as a group of like-minded individuals?
Are we no better than the social media platforms that silence those who would speak the truth?
Are we not above the Government agencies we see lie and silence the people every day?
Are we not better than the animal rights activists who twist and distort our know truths to fit their own agenda?
I am ashamed I was once a member of such an organization, and I am glad I did not renew my membership when I heard rumblings of this atrocity.
Please remove my name from your mailing list as I will not support the NTA as it stands.
Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 03:07 PM
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Huntrap247 well the president doesn't sound overly upset about the loss of your support.
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Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 03:36 PM
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huntrap247
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Huntrap247 well the president doesn't sound overly upset about the loss of your support.
I was less than impressed with his nonchalant attitude towards an (ex) members disappointment.
Some people refuse to see the truth when you bludgeon them over the head with it.
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Re: Banished!
[Re: huntrap247]
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10/23/23 07:37 PM
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Huntrap247 well the president doesn't sound overly upset about the loss of your support.
I was less than impressed with his nonchalant attitude towards an (ex) members disappointment. Huntrap247 since you represent no current loss or potential gain of revenue ... you are irrelevant! Lol Yotetrapper30, did you ask for your dues back pro rata ???
Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of U.P. Trappers Member of NTA Member of FTA
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Re: Banished!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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10/23/23 08:05 PM
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Here ya go Tony. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/10/full-20923-192905-img_20231021_191327292.jpg) Thank you A. I am glade you were and offered a chance to speak. I am also glade you took them up on their offers to voice your concerns. I see the future of the industry changing rapidly. I am excited to see the direction it is heading and hope to live long enough to see some goals come full circle. I hate to see so much division in our industry, however, it is how change comes about. The industry will prevail. I am glade to see that another national organization will be getting the support of many who separate from the NTA. The FTA is a fine organization who teaches modern technology and techniques through sound tested and true methods. The NTA and FTA both have one common goal even if stand alone organizations, they work together for the greater good of all in the industry.
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