not sure if they are reading all that into it , I think they just see the economy looking a lot like 2006 and they want to wait and see how big the cliff we are about to take a flying leap off of is and how hard and far the bottom is .

Tesla is light years ahead of the “legacy” automakers as far as EV’s/batteries

They can’t catch up without government subsidies

The free market should decide who wins/loses,,,,without government subsidies

EV’s do have their niche

Even Elon sezs we need fossil fuels for along time into future

If your battery is low with an EV or dead you’re not getting to work then if it’s a hybrid you’re getting to work then with a few bucks worth of gas. Who has $15,000 to drop for a new battery when the time comes it a hard sell for me to go EV I just don’t see it.

The hybrids aren't the end all some want them to be. Buddy that just bought his 23 hybrid tundra found that out. He gets 1 YES ONE mile to the gallon better than the gas only.. He had to give up ALL the under the seat storage in the back. That area I can live out of for a week in mine . People want to throw out MPG from prius and other matchbox cars. When you compare exact models gas to hybrid it is lacking. You have to account for the battery weight in a pick up.

For people that do a lot of sitting in traffic, it makes no sense to idle an engine when sitting still or creeping along at 5 mph.

You do know a hybrid has a battery also right. PLUS THEY WON'T run if it goes bad. Not like a switch you flip gas to electric.......

That's why the golf cart technology chevy has on all their new vehicles.

Source:https://www.tesla.com/support/incentives

"Electric Vehicle & Energy Incentives
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For the most up-to-date information, review the sponsoring entity’s website directly for details on eligibility, redemption and program details. View additional details on eligibility and redemption.

Request a callback from a Tesla Advisor to learn about incentives.

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Last they reported most vehicles don’t even qualify for the rebates that are being offered today.

I walked around the Ford in a showroom. The one I saw was a Platinum edition with every option. Not a truck that would appeal to many, especially at that price.

They are always harping on about carbon emissions. We need more carbon in the atmosphere. With the little that we have right now plants are struggling to grow. Crops would be a lot better if the plants had some more CO 2 to convert into plant matter.

I am glad that Ev's run mostly on coal with their external combustion engines.

Ford announcement today saying they are loosing 37 000$ per EV sold,,,,,


Does that sound substainable??

It is when the taxpayer is funding it.

I’m sure there is a big difference between a EV $15,000 battery and a hybrid size one 3-4 thousand some of the the hybrids have 2 batteries from I’ve found.

I hope you are right. I saw on the news where some auto repair shops are refusing to work on EVs. Older EVs you are looking at close to $10,000 to replace batteries. Just a few reasons why they are so impractical.

'Green' is only in the eyes of the everyday consumer. It's not green to produce and manufacture 'green' anything. Doesn't matter if it's solar panels, wind turbines, or evs. And it isn't 'green' to produce electricity ... whole lot of fossil fuels being burned to spin those turbines to make a kilowatt. Sight unseen, unlike the consumer pulling into the gas station to fill-er-up.

Yes unless it’s a dam producing hydro electricity. Oh wait the tree huggers are getting them removed so that’s not an option. If they want clean energy then unless a major flood no water should be sluiced thru a dam. But can’t skim money from a project that was built 75 years ago. Why politicians want new projects so their buddy gets the contract then trims a slice off fir them

This is a day I thought would never come. I agree with you 100% on this . The green people and electric cars are all BS. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

Don’t get me wrong,,,,,,the whole “green energy””climate change” is a wealth redistribution scam

But ford, and now GM. abandoning their short term EV/battery goals is a response to conceding wage increases/union auto workers

Not that any one is actually waking up

Ford sold 36 000 EV’s last quarter, Tesla sold 36 000 EV’s last week

Union vs non union

Check out edison motors out of canada. Interesting ideas for electric trucks.

https://youtu.be/KGN7rjZGjMQ?si=AB4g-wlvLtwRYV0V