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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7978132
10/23/23 08:44 PM
10/23/23 08:44 PM
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Same way that a #3 coilspring and a #3 longspring have totally different jawspreads, for that matter the jawspreads vary a lot in the same "size" trap from brand to brand. I've never understood why Duke 330s aren't square either. Seemed pointless and likely to prevent sales to anybody who used them in boxes or cubbies who already had other brands. Since they wouldn't be interchangeable. They do catch beaver just fine though.

Re: ? for body grip users [Re: bearcat2] #7978351
10/24/23 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Same way that a #3 coilspring and a #3 longspring have totally different jawspreads, for that matter the jawspreads vary a lot in the same "size" trap from brand to brand. I've never understood why Duke 330s aren't square either. Seemed pointless and likely to prevent sales to anybody who used them in boxes or cubbies who already had other brands. Since they wouldn't be interchangeable. They do catch beaver just fine though.


Those duke “330s”definitely have some strong springs.

Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7978396
10/24/23 08:24 AM
10/24/23 08:24 AM
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They are a safer trap to be, because the safeties are right where you put them. One saved trip to the ER because the safety fell off a 330 and broke a bone in you hand in a lifetime, will more than pay the difference in price of a Belisle than any other trap.

Very little time on adjusting the triggers on new Belisles 330s.


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7978400
10/24/23 08:32 AM
10/24/23 08:32 AM
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Rodney,Ohio
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Belisles are just a quality of life trap. Thats why I prefer them to all others. I've got savageaus, bridgers, victors, dukes, MB 1216s and I'm reaching for the belisles first. Dukes for when I have just over 9"of water and not quite 10. Bridgers...well they usually stay at the bottom of the pile until im out of all others, usually have to talk myself out of tossing them into the middle of the swamp and leaving them everytime I have to use them.

Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Mike Kelly] #7978524
10/24/23 11:38 AM
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[quote=Mike Kelly]They are a safer trap to be, because the safeties are right where you put them. One saved trip to the ER because the safety fell off a 330 and broke a bone in you hand in a lifetime, will more than pay the difference in price of a Belisle than any other trap.

I used Nessmucks trick on wrapping wire on both sides of safety and it seems to work pretty slick.





Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7983882
10/31/23 05:02 PM
10/31/23 05:02 PM
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I just started running a few Belisle's the last year or two and I've really like them. My standard 330's have always worked good on small and medium size beavers but when I start getting the bigger 65lb + ones the set location and stabilizer would be all torn up from them fighting the 330 before expiring. Since I started using the Belisle's those same size beavers I have found dead without any location disturbance. So for me that are 100% worth the extra money no more fixing bent stabilizers and a critter that expired much quicker with no fur damage


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: The Beav] #7986029
11/03/23 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I bought 6 doz 160 belisles Sure I caught tons of coon In them but I also had lots of problems with coon escaping and leaving coon parts behind. I got rid of them because of that. Wasn't fair to the animal.
I also had some Belisle 330s. I had more then a few live otter in those traps and a few beaver escaped leaving parts behind. I got rid of those traps as well. Personally I think those traps are way over powered. And those stamped out tin dogs are worthless.
A buddy gave me 10 160 Belisles. They were In really bad shape. Soaked them In vinegar and got them rust free. I took those junk dogs off and had a buddy lazer cut out some regular dogs. Then I took my torch and weakened the springs. Know I have a trap that I can set by hand.
The safeties are great but If you keep your hands out of the kill zone and on the springs safeties don't matter.
Killing the animal that gets In your trap Is the only thing that matters.

But use what ever trips your trigger.


Lot of things can happen if a bodygrip becomes a restraining trap. They are not all good things.


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Mike Kelly] #7986222
11/03/23 07:11 PM
11/03/23 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Kelly
They are a safer trap to be, because the safeties are right where you put them. One saved trip to the ER because the safety fell off a 330 and broke a bone in you hand in a lifetime, will more than pay the difference in price of a Belisle than any other trap.

Very little time on adjusting the triggers on new Belisles 330s.


What kind of adjustments do you do to new Belisles?


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: The Beav] #7986386
11/03/23 11:28 PM
11/03/23 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I bought 6 doz 160 belisles Sure I caught tons of coon In them but I also had lots of problems with coon escaping and leaving coon parts behind. I got rid of them because of that. Wasn't fair to the animal.
I also had some Belisle 330s. I had more then a few live otter in those traps and a few beaver escaped leaving parts behind. I got rid of those traps as well.


That is the result of sloppy sets / poor setting technique.

Last edited by Boco; 11/03/23 11:30 PM.

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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7986399
11/03/23 11:51 PM
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That's not true.
It's very difficult to keep a coon from reaching In to get the bait. Even if you recess the trap back In the box. Coon are natural born to reach for food. Even If that coon would crawl Into the box It's still going to reach for that bait.
How many coon have you caught Boco? You ever have a live otter or beaver in a BG?


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7986416
11/04/23 01:11 AM
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Yea,I have been guilty of making the odd sloppy set
It happens when trying to put in too many sets too fast.
Much better to slow down make less sets but make good ones.

Last edited by Boco; 11/04/23 01:13 AM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: ? for body grip users [Re: The Beav] #7986464
11/04/23 06:36 AM
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Just be very careful with belisle traps. I had a belisle 330 cut the end of my thumb off. Had to go to upstate medical to have it sewed back on.


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: The Beav] #7986621
11/04/23 12:00 PM
11/04/23 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
That's not true.
It's very difficult to keep a coon from reaching In to get the bait. Even if you recess the trap back In the box. Coon are natural born to reach for food. Even If that coon would crawl Into the box It's still going to reach for that bait.
How many coon have you caught Boco? You ever have a live otter or beaver in a BG?


Just admit you don't know what your doing. Not everybody can be as good as the master trapper from Ontario.


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7986711
11/04/23 03:42 PM
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I don't b buy into that a Duke 330 will kill a beaver dead just like the expensive one will.

Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Guss] #7986730
11/04/23 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Guss
I don't b buy into that a Duke 330 will kill a beaver dead just like the expensive one will.


I'm not sure anybody said that. Maybe I missed it? I use traps of all different brands and quality. Weaker and less quality traps are used in drowning situations. Traps with stronger springs are used where I want the animal dead quicker. If I use a trap that will restrain the animal by a body part, I will have to anchor all these traps like they are a foothold. This would have to be consideration in choosing locations. I think all quality of traps have their place depending.......

I'll give you fine example of where I don't want beaver killed instantly. I trap a lot of slides. Many times these traps are 5 to 10 feet from the water. It is always downhill to the water. I need these beaver to flop a little to slide down hill into the water and eventually sink. If they stay on land they are subject to predation from eagles, ravens, and to a lesser extent coyotes.

Last edited by Dirt; 11/04/23 04:43 PM.

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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7986736
11/04/23 04:44 PM
11/04/23 04:44 PM
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I don't think anyone would doubt the springs of a new duke 330 of they've tried to set in the last several years

Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7987061
11/05/23 07:38 AM
11/05/23 07:38 AM
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If you are using magnum traps stake them like you would if you expected a live beaver.


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7987308
11/05/23 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
If you are using magnum traps stake them like you would if you expected a live beaver.


And exactly how much more time will it take to anchor every magnum like a foothold? Should I rig them all on slide wires (cables) to deeper water so the beaver drowns? How many set locations will I have to pass up because of this if I only have magnums?


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Re: ? for body grip users [Re: Jingles] #7987366
11/05/23 02:28 PM
11/05/23 02:28 PM
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Just don't attach them to anything flimsy and you're good.

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