Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
[Re: DaveP]
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11/03/23 09:32 PM
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Look at history, the fall of the Roman Empire . Follow it to today. Only difference is some of us see it coming.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 09:42 PM
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While that may be true, they still have to have a reason to take the chance that they do coming in illegally. Exactly -- the ones coming in now are not taking any jobs. Much different than the ones coming across 20 years ago.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
[Re: DaveP]
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11/03/23 09:48 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
[Re: DaveP]
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11/03/23 09:53 PM
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
James -- do you remember what our "dems" were busy doing to trump the entire time he was in office? -- I am sure you do. Leave it to lawyers to ALWAYS be on the other side. Right and wrong don't matter to a lawyer.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:01 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
James -- do you remember what our "dems" were busy doing to trump the entire time he was in office? -- I am sure you do. Leave it to lawyers to ALWAYS be on the other side. Right and wrong don't matter to a lawyer. If Trump can't take the heat of the office, why is he running again? And why would you vote for him again? Jim
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:07 PM
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As I remember it, Trump was trying to build a wall. And I believe you need sixty votes in the Senate to enact law. Trump had fifty-four.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:21 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
LOL You only remember what you're told to remember , or are very selective in your memories.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:26 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
What is it 8 or 9 years of false accusations , and nothing has been proven? Every time there's proof of the Biden/Obama administration wrong doings, a new accusation against Trump comes about ! Haven't you paid any attention to the pattern ? Stick your head back in the sand , and let people with their own minds figure this out.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:29 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.
But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?
Jim
Both houses of congress? Please explain.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:37 PM
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It would appear congress hasn't passed any extensive immigration reform law since 1986. Most of the changes come from E.O.s
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:38 PM
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The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.
You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.
Jim
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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It would appear congress hasn't passed any extensive immigration reform law since 1986. Most of the changes come from E.O.s EO's? There's only one house of congress , same as one house of senate !
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:44 PM
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Uh, no.
"EO" means executive orders.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 10:56 PM
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The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.
You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.
Jim You need sixty votes to pass in the Senate. You have a law degree, eh?
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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Those people are already in America illegally before the wire. The border is the middle of the river. Now they have to be processed.
I didn't make the law.
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 11:06 PM
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The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.
You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.
Jim More than likely hunting or working to help the family make ends meet. I thought the senate and congress were two different houses. Still if the congress votes one way , the senate can vote the other , and the senate seems to rule. Guess it depends on how many liberals are in the senate?
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.
You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.
Jim You need sixty votes to pass in the Senate. You have a law degree, eh? A simple majority in both houses is sufficient to pass. https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/the-legislative-process#:~:text=In%20the%20Senate%2C%20the%20bill,Senate%20versions%20of%20the%20bill. Why is there so much misinformation here? Jim
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again...
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11/03/23 11:46 PM
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I'm in a battle of wits with the unarmed! lol
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